- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
lsu basketball
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:59 pm
It was amazin when Dale came, Glen Hansen Eddie Palubinskas, Collis Temple, Mike Darnall, Kenny Higgs all revived a program that was a basketball catastrophe...Rudy Macklin, Ricky Blanton, Dwayne Scales, Leonard Mitchell, and those great guards all had something in common....heart. We came from nothing to the final four....and now we have lost that. Trent was a disaster that set the program back 10 years, and the Ben experiment set it back another 5...I hope we can make it back...and I do think we will be good again....and the first step is next year....we won in the past with point guards, hustle and fight. we need to recruit that...instead on one and done.
8
Posted on 3/28/16 at 11:02 pm to 75helpmacpack
quote:
Trent was a disaster that set the program back 10 years, and the Ben experiment set it back another 5..
Posted on 3/29/16 at 7:45 am to 75helpmacpack
I'm far, far from one of the big Dale guys here. There are plenty enough of them, they don't need me anyway.
But I'll give him one thing. That shite we saw consistently with his boys team this year....the lack of effort and passion, Dale would not put up with it or pretend it wasn't happening as it appears to me CJJ did.
But I'll give him one thing. That shite we saw consistently with his boys team this year....the lack of effort and passion, Dale would not put up with it or pretend it wasn't happening as it appears to me CJJ did.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:04 am to Tiger Ugly
But according to an article in today's Advocate, JJ is "excited about where the program is now". He also complained about what bad shape the program was in when Trent left.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:16 am to 75helpmacpack
quote:
Trent was a disaster that set the program back 10 years, and the Ben experiment set it back another 5.
quote:Do you contradict yourself often?
I hope we can make it back...and I do think we will be good again....and the first step is next year..
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:58 am to 75helpmacpack
quote:
I do think we will be good again
I do too. Just not under Jones. 16 years of history tells you that.
But hey, NEXT YEAR is the year. Of course, this past season was supposed to be "next year" as well.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:07 am to Keltic Tiger
quote:
He also complained about what bad shape the program was in when Trent left.
The miserable (at the time) John Brady came into a way worse situation than Johnny Jones did, and Brady did a worlds better head coaching job than Johnny with a lot less.
Johnny sucks as the HC and needs to be replaced.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:10 am to Skillet
do you even basketball
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:13 am to Keltic Tiger
quote:
But according to an article in today's Advocate, JJ is "excited about where the program is now". He also complained about what bad shape the program was in when Trent left.
I saw that and
Trent didn't leave CJJ with the best but he left CJJ with more than any other coach that took over here, save Trent who even he took over a short-ended program where there would be little left after his first year.
I was surprised and disappointed he played that card. Of my issues with Johnny that was not one I see from him very often, in fact I've never heard him take a shot at Trent till that one. Pressure may be getting to him.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:22 am to Keltic Tiger
You need program players that will stay until their jr/sr year but without one and dones your not winning national titles.
Until LSU values every possession and stops throwing games away and decides to play defense it won't matter. That's on the head coach.
In game adjustments play a part too and that's lacking.
Until LSU values every possession and stops throwing games away and decides to play defense it won't matter. That's on the head coach.
In game adjustments play a part too and that's lacking.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:27 am to 75helpmacpack
Here's what I think about cjj, like it matters I know. I don't think he's an arse clown like most do, but I do think he is an assistant coach not a head coach. Imo hes had decent gameplans and good halftime adjustments but he's not able to think on his feet during the actual game.
Hes also not a leader and that's what college kids need most, a coach that is a leader. We won't ever be good under johnny but we probably won't be a bottom feeder like with Trent. If the program wants to take the next step forward they will need to move on.
Hes also not a leader and that's what college kids need most, a coach that is a leader. We won't ever be good under johnny but we probably won't be a bottom feeder like with Trent. If the program wants to take the next step forward they will need to move on.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:31 am to nicholastiger
quote:
without one and dones your not winning national titles.
Yea, Kansas, Oklahoma and North Carolina had a team full of one and dones contributing.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:37 am to Pnels08
quote:
don't think he's an arse clown like most do, but I do think he is an assistant coach not a head coach. Imo hes had decent gameplans and good halftime adjustments but he's not able to think on his feet during the actual game.
Up until this year that was my take this year, and it's still where I lean. This year left me scratching my head about actual bench coaching acumen as well. I've never seen a worse zone defense with that level of athletes.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:43 am to Pnels08
quote:
but I do think he is an assistant coach not a head coach. Imo hes had decent gameplans and good halftime adjustments but he's not able to think on his feet during the actual game.
This i a spot on analysis of him. I also don't think hiring him was a complete disaster. This season was bad there is no sugar coating that and we have probably reached the ceiling with Johnny. Coming out of the Trent Johnson era you needed someone that loved LSU and could sell the program to the fans and the recruits. He did that and the reason people are upset about this year is because of expectations that were set by him bringing in better players. It did not work out but when he is gone LSU will be able to go get a bigger name coach than they could when he was hired because of the state of the program.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 11:04 am to geauxtigers33
quote:
but when he is gone LSU will be able to go get a bigger name coach than they could when he was hired because of the state of the program
Don't you think the time to find a new coach is now, not next season?
Posted on 3/29/16 at 11:08 am to macanLSU
quote:
Don't you think the time to find a new coach is now, not next season?
Yes I do but the AD has already said he isn't going anywhere so I'm not going to waste my time complaining about him being back next season. I'm going to still be a LSU fan and hope that he proves me wrong. If he does great that's awesome for him and LSU and if he doesn't then they will make a change next season.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 11:31 am to 75helpmacpack
Trent could or would not recruit a roster of SEC caliber players and left the program in sad shape. Jones has been given four years to show what he can do. He has done better with recruiting and results than Johnson, but that is faint praise. Jones line up next year should be laden with contributing Juniors and Seniors given his time here. But, we again will be relying on new and relatively untested players. These players will need time to learn each other and the system. This is not how a program that will year in and year out contend for a NCAA tournament spot should be built IMO. I can't blame Jones for going out and getting top recruits, but where he has failed is in getting the good 4 year program players. These players would be adequate subs early in their career and are strong starters near graduation. I don't think that is asking too much. What we are left with is a lack of player continuity and depth, and with a coach who seems to have some serious limitations in player motivation, game prep, and in game coaching abilities. I can't fault the administration for keeping Jones for next year given his four year record, LA fiscal woes, and the Miles fiasco. But if LSU does not make the tourney next year, we should find a new coach. Five years out, Jones can't blame Trent, injuries, defections, etc. It's his responsibility to recruit, coach, and achieve the required results to keep his job.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 12:16 pm to 75helpmacpack
Johnny Jones can't coach up a less-talented, "blue collar" team. The problem isn't egos and 1-and-done's-the buck stops at the coach. Dale Brown tore Shaq a new one when he skipped a class-and he never skipped again. I don't think JJ has that kind of influence. So for you and the others that are saying we'll be fine because we'll all of a sudden have heart and play "team ball," what are you basing that on? Do you just assume that less-talented teams automatically fight and work harder? No-they need a General who can bring out the best in their abilities in order to become that kind of team.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 1:41 pm to SCP
quote:
Five years out, Jones can't blame Trent, injuries, defections, etc. It's his responsibility to recruit, coach, and achieve the required results to keep his job.
This is a fair & reasonable "demand" from regular LSU fans like most of us.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:53 pm to 75helpmacpack
Jesus how many alters can be in a thread at one time?
Page 1 of 1
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News