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LSU and the Dual-Threat Quarterback

Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:19 pm
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:19 pm
We have two dual-threat quarterbacks and can't do shite on offense. Last year we had the best offense in LSU history. With a Pro-Style quarterback. Let's see, JJ dual-threat ended up being awful. Perriloux, we'll never know. Marcus Randall, awful. Guys, I'm not going to say that these guys aren't going to be productive quarterbacks. But you can't sit here and tell me that a dual-threat quarterback is the way to go. We just don't have a good history with them. Les' offense isn't set up to have that type of quarterback.

What's your take on the dual-threat quarterbac?
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 4:21 pm
Posted by theBru
South of I-10
Member since Jun 2013
5071 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:22 pm to
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Les' offense isn't set up to have that type of quarterback.


BINGEAUX, you win the kewpie Tigah!!!

Why on earth he recruits nothing but spread qbs and tries to ruin them into a pro-style pocket passer, I will never know...

Posted by DthVllyDud
Ameritopia
Member since Jan 2011
1365 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:22 pm to
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Quarterbac


Think we need one of these...
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6369 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

We have two dual-threat quarterbacks and can't do shite on offense. Last year we had the best offense in LSU history. With a Pro-Style quarterback. Let's see, JJ dual-threat ended up being awful. Perriloux, we'll never know. Marcus Randall, awful. Guys, I'm not going to say that these guys aren't going to be productive quarterbacks. But you can't sit here and tell me that a dual-threat quarterback is the way to go. We just don't have a good history with them. Les' offense isn't set up to have that type of quarterback.

What's your take on the dual-threat quarterbac?




you hit the nail on the head...this is beyond me...question that will never be answered
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8807 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:24 pm to
Watching how the season has played out, anyone a little surprised Rettig didn't try to compete for another year?
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18495 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:25 pm to
We don't have dual-threat QBs...Les just wants a mobile QB who can extend plays, but still play from the pocket.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14157 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:25 pm to
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Why on earth he recruits nothing but spread qbs and tries to ruin them into a pro-style pocket passer, I will never know...


Probably for the same reason that he went out and hired an OL coach whose specialty is teaching zone blocking for spread offenses, even though we run a conservative pro-style offense.

Makes no sense whatsoever.
Posted by SwampyLSU
Member since Aug 2014
1605 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:27 pm to
Dumbfounded that we recruit and get one of the top dual quarterbacks in that class, and we put him ubder center in the I form for 85% of the plays. It works with a qb like Mettenberger but if the coaches dont adapt to the players they themselves recruited it will be a long 3 years.
Posted by rsylve
Terrytown, LA
Member since Feb 2013
3775 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:30 pm to
A dual threat quarterback implies you are a threat with both. An athletic QB that can't pass is not a dual threat. He is just an athlete playing QB. College duel threat QBs = RG3, Cam Newton, Tebow. Athletes playing QB = Jordan Jefferson, Jeff Driskel.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 4:34 pm
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42347 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:31 pm to
Flynn did both fairly well
Russell was actually pretty good under Miles and Fisher despite flaming out in the pros
Posted by Rantavious
Bossier ''get down'' City
Member since Jan 2007
2079 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:31 pm to
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He is just a QB who can run, playing QB
Posted by TigerDean
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
1342 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:33 pm to
Les has for the most part, ruined any recruiting of a pro style QB to LSU. He's ran off all of them ...except Zach Mettenberger.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:34 pm to
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Why on earth he recruits nothing but spread qbs and tries to ruin them into a pro-style pocket passer, I will never know...
It's pretty simple, really.

In short, he doesn't trust the passing game unless he has a Flynn, Russell or Mett type player behind the center. So the rest of the time, he wants a duel threat guy that can run away and get that occasional big play with his feet, since, in Les's mind, it's not likely that passing is going to work much anyway.
Posted by theBru
South of I-10
Member since Jun 2013
5071 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:54 pm to
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in Les's mind


you give him too much credit...

quote:

it's not likely that passing is going to work much anyway


Only three things happen when you throw the ball, and two of them are bad, now that's his mentality...

Posted by theBru
South of I-10
Member since Jun 2013
5071 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 5:01 pm to
AJ is an athlete playing QB, as he has not shown any proficiency in the passing game, other than to throw it in an arch down field and let our receiver run under it...on the other hand, once BH6, if & when he gets comfortable playing in this "pro" style offense, he will be quite remarkable...
Mett couldn't out run a one legged man, so why CLM ever recruited him, I will never know...

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259899 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 5:05 pm to
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We don't have dual-threat QBs...Les just wants a mobile QB who can extend plays, but still play from the pocket.


Bingo. The offense isn't set up for a dual threat guy. It's a traditional offense but he wants a mobile QB
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 5:07 pm to
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What's your take on the dual-threat quarterbac?


Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 5:07 pm to
Jesus. They're both young. Our great offense last year lost how many games? Dual threat is a must in today's game.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19042 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 5:33 pm to
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Dumbfounded that we recruit and get one of the top dual quarterbacks in that class, and we put him ubder center in the I form for 85% of the plays.


Its called a zero threat QB when you run the toss dive on 3rd and 7 with your lowest producing tailback...
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25917 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 5:41 pm to
LSU lost the QB game when Hayden Rettig transferred. He was much better than Jennings or Harris.
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