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Let's stop this narrative now - Etling =/= 2007 Flynn
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:16 pm
What we saw from Etling last night was 100% "game manager" style play. 17 attempts in 67 plays, highly efficient, and no mistakes. It is only one game, but so far it seems like Canada is going to play through Guice and the RBs and take calculated shots with Etling when necessary. Hell, 17 attempts was the fewest Etling has had as a starter at LSU.
On the other hand, Flynn and that 2007 offense threw the ball 30 times a game. Flynn was largely feast or famine, throwing for less than 55% in half of his starts in 2007 and throwing at least 1 INT in 8 of 12 starts. Also, despite averaging 196 yards per game in regulation, he threw for 176 or less in 7/12 games, and 217 or more in the other 5. He averaged less than 6.7 yards per attempt. Hardly a game manager.
Flynn and Etling may have similar capabilities, but their roles in their particular offenses are far different. Flynn didn't have a single game in his 2007 campaign that was similar to Etling last night. People suggesting Etling was Flynn-like clearly don't remember anything about Flynn.
Anyway, carry on.
ETA - Based on the down votes, I assume people think this is a criticism of Etling. Newsflash - it isn't.
ETA.2 - Just
@ the people who don't understand this post.
On the other hand, Flynn and that 2007 offense threw the ball 30 times a game. Flynn was largely feast or famine, throwing for less than 55% in half of his starts in 2007 and throwing at least 1 INT in 8 of 12 starts. Also, despite averaging 196 yards per game in regulation, he threw for 176 or less in 7/12 games, and 217 or more in the other 5. He averaged less than 6.7 yards per attempt. Hardly a game manager.
Flynn and Etling may have similar capabilities, but their roles in their particular offenses are far different. Flynn didn't have a single game in his 2007 campaign that was similar to Etling last night. People suggesting Etling was Flynn-like clearly don't remember anything about Flynn.
Anyway, carry on.
ETA - Based on the down votes, I assume people think this is a criticism of Etling. Newsflash - it isn't.
ETA.2 - Just
@ the people who don't understand this post. This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 1:52 pm
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:23 pm to slackster
flynn was a gunslinger just like mauck. both could run option and did at times and scramble well also not to mention draws.
doubt we see many intended runs from etling (which kinda hurts the offense) other than scrambles.... he would be drilled.
like lee in 2011 first 8 games.
doubt we see many intended runs from etling (which kinda hurts the offense) other than scrambles.... he would be drilled.
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and take calculated shots
like lee in 2011 first 8 games.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:27 pm to Fat Bastard
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flynn was a gunslinger just like mauck
Mauck threw it ~26 times per game for 7.9 ypa and completed 64% of his passes. He's much closer to Etling than Flynn is.
Etling is significantly more efficient than Flynn, and we seem to be playing to that strength so far this year.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:32 pm to slackster
mauck threw 28 TD in a season an LSu record only tied by Jrock. he aired it out and yes was definitey more efficient and better than flynn.
yep better than flynn. but MM was not just some game manager. complete myth. he could do both. sling it and manage it if needed.
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completed 64% of his passes
yep better than flynn. but MM was not just some game manager. complete myth. he could do both. sling it and manage it if needed.
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:37 pm to slackster
Etling doesn't have near the arm as Flynn IMO.
He's the best option currently. He's not going to light it up, but he can manage a game, which is what the rant has been asking for for the last decade.
He's the best option currently. He's not going to light it up, but he can manage a game, which is what the rant has been asking for for the last decade.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:40 pm to slackster
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the other hand, Flynn and that 2007 offense threw the ball 30 times a game.
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Mauck threw it ~26 times per game for 7.9 ypa and completed 64% of his passes. He's much closer to Etling than Flynn is.
Flynn avg 25 a game for the season with a 56.3 completion %. Dont just throw out numbers for the hell of it. Do research
Also 21-11 TD to interception. So lets stop acting like he was a heisman candidate. Most on here would say Etling sucks with those same numbers
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:46 pm to tiogatiger19
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Flynn avg 25 a game for the season with a 56.3 completion %. Dont just throw out numbers for the hell of it. Do research
What are you talking about?
Flynn had 359 attempts in 12 games in 2007. That's 29.9 attempts per game.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:46 pm to tiogatiger19
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Flynn avg 25 a game for the season with a 56.3 completion %. Dont just throw out numbers for the hell of it. Do research
Flynn also played almost that entire season hurt.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:48 pm to rintintin
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Etling doesn't have near the arm as Flynn IMO.
Probably not, but he's far more efficient.
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He's the best option currently. He's not going to light it up, but he can manage a game, which is what the rant has been asking for for the last decade.
He might light it up, but I don't know how often we'll ask him to do so. He executed incredibly well within the game plan last night, and if he can do that with similar efficiency, we'll be fine.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:49 pm to slackster
if danny can play anything like AJ McCarron we should be good IMO
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:49 pm to slackster
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What are you talking about?
Flynn had 359 attempts in 12 games in 2007. That's 29.9 attempts per game.
We played 14, guess i just dont remember missing 2 games, my bad. Look at his numbers 2007 compared to Etlings last year. Tell me how he is so much better
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:50 pm to tiogatiger19
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Flynn avg 25 a game for the season with a 56.3 completion %. Dont just throw out numbers for the hell of it. Do research
Also 21-11 TD to interception. So lets stop acting like he was a heisman candidate. Most on here would say Etling sucks with those same numbers
WTF are you talking about? Did you read any of the OP, or can you simply not comprehend it?
The entire OP is pro-Etling.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:50 pm to slackster
quote:Flynn played most of his senior season lacking is normal Mobility because of a hurt ankle. In addition he hurt his shoulder and lost zip for most of the back half of the season
Probably not, but he's far more efficient
People really need to dig themselves out of just looking at stat boards.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:53 pm to slackster
We've seen one game bro. We don't know anything about what kind of season any player is going to have.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:56 pm to ShortyRob
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People really need to dig themselves out of just looking at stat boards.
true. same thing as when people blast our defense in 2007 for giving up lots of points against arky and kentucky and having red zone issues on D which is all true.
however........our D was still #3 in the country for the 3rd year running under Bo. We also had a shite ton of guys hurt on the back half of the season on D!dorsey, chevis jackson, etc. etc.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:56 pm to slackster
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ETA.2 - Just @ the people who don't understand this post.
I understand this post... VERY WELL... You think Flynn SUCKED.......
Sorry but as of now... Etling is NO Flynn.....
But what he did last night gives me more confidence than I have had in years as far as LSU'S offense is concerned.........
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:58 pm to Fat Bastard
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if danny can play anything like AJ McCarron we should be good IMO
Yeah, McCarron-like efficiency would be fantastic. Hell, even if Etling can put up similar numbers to McCarron in 2011 (25ish attempts per game, 67% completion %, 16/5 TD/INT, 8 yards per attempt) we'll be in great shape.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:58 pm to Fat Bastard
I also had to chuckle at someone referring to Mauck as a gunslinger. LOL. I love the dude but he was a straight-up Runner who happened to be able to throw. We were just damned good that year. But I mean seriously. On 3rd and 7 we were as likely to run a QB draw as anything else.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:00 pm to Fat Bastard
Mauck was A better QB than Flynn.... But they are close... Both Flynn and MM had A better returning WR core than Etling has...[SO FAR].... BUT.. I loved to watch an offense last night that didn't have to turn to the sideline AFTER breaking the huddle to see what to do next...........
Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:00 pm to slackster
Etling is fairly accurate but I hope his YPA increases a good bit this year. It was like 8.0 last season which needs to be improved drastically. Also he is averaging less than 1 TD a game (11 in 12 starts I think). If he can maintain accuracy in the 60s and increase YPA numbers we should be in good shape.
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