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re: Let's be realistic about Les's coaching abilities
Posted on 12/1/15 at 4:59 pm to Dagoose
Posted on 12/1/15 at 4:59 pm to Dagoose
At his current pace, he will be the winningest coach in school history, with at least 1 national title, at least two appearances. Never had a losing season here. His "disasters" are 8 win seasons.
His resume, as it stands now, is borderline HOF, limited mostly by overall duration when you compare him to some national all-time greats. He has done more than a number of guys who have stadiums named after them.
He has done the bulk of this in a timeframe when the SEC was winning an unprecedented 7 straight national titles, meaning he wasn't padding anything with a weak conference schedule. He has produced the most players in the NFL, but if you go by recruiting standards, he does not have the most talented team in the conference, or for that matter, in the division. That distinction belongs to Alabama, who is generally considered the best program in all of America. Despite this, he was able to manage an SEC title and undefeated regular season, in the midst of Alabama's run. Compared to his predecessor Saban, Miles has won the same amount of national titles AT LSU, and has at least 4 other seasons better than Saban's second-best.
That is not opinion, nor does it mean he isn't winding down in his career. Simply, it means he has been an extremely good coach, great by LSU standards. Don't revise history just to shite on the man you don't like.
His resume, as it stands now, is borderline HOF, limited mostly by overall duration when you compare him to some national all-time greats. He has done more than a number of guys who have stadiums named after them.
He has done the bulk of this in a timeframe when the SEC was winning an unprecedented 7 straight national titles, meaning he wasn't padding anything with a weak conference schedule. He has produced the most players in the NFL, but if you go by recruiting standards, he does not have the most talented team in the conference, or for that matter, in the division. That distinction belongs to Alabama, who is generally considered the best program in all of America. Despite this, he was able to manage an SEC title and undefeated regular season, in the midst of Alabama's run. Compared to his predecessor Saban, Miles has won the same amount of national titles AT LSU, and has at least 4 other seasons better than Saban's second-best.
That is not opinion, nor does it mean he isn't winding down in his career. Simply, it means he has been an extremely good coach, great by LSU standards. Don't revise history just to shite on the man you don't like.
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:05 pm to John Keating
Fantasy! Pls explain what I'm fantasizing about . How did auburn do this year without a QB?
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:07 pm to Scoob
Lombardi said EXCUSSESS is a losers ALIBI. No one has more EXCUSSESS than Les Miles and the Mile's lovers
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:07 pm to FourthQuarter
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And LSU will be damn good every year he is our coach.
8-3 is not damn good
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can't get to Atlanta with Les as coach.
Do you even read what you post...you're contradicting the shite out of yourself.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:08 pm to FourthQuarter
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:08 pm to LSUANDY25
When, other than 2006, has a Les Miles team been better at the end of the season than at the beginning? Think about it.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:08 pm to LSUANDY25
double post
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:17 pm to Scoob
I don't think the amount of players in the NFL can be attributed to Miles's development as much as the fact that they're already superb athletes. LSU may not have a recruiting ranking as high as Alabama's, but he still brings in 4 and 5 star players that everyone already knows have NFL potential. You'd have to be a terrible coach for them not to succeed.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:18 pm to Scoob
He's already in the Hall of Fame. But his own fan base is constantly criticizing him. Weve heard all the names over the years that would've done better at LSU. Just to see them all either quit, fired or crater the program when a top coordinator or the star QB left.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:18 pm to LSUANDY25
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Pls explain what I'm fantasizing about .
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Cameron runs off all QBs leaving miles Jennings and a puppy named Harris and still manages an 8-5 yr. one of the absolute finest coaching jobs ever. Even had Bama beat with these 2 QB s and a 1 dimensional offense.
First, Cameron did not "run off all QBs."
Second, I don't believe LSU's season last year was an example of "absolute finest coaching jobs ever." See Urban Meyer last year and what he did with an inexperienced freshman and a career backup as QBs for a proper example of one of the "absolute finest coaching jobs ever."
Third, LSU did not beat Alabama. Unless you are counting moral victories. If LSU kept the game close it was because of Chavis' defense which played extremely well and even gave LSU the ball inside the 10 with less than 2 minutes to play in the game. Predictably, LSU's offense could not put the ball in the end zone to finish the game.
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How did auburn do this year without a QB?
They are currently 6-6. If they win a bowl game they will be 7-6. That is very close to the 8-5 season of LSU that you mentioned above as "one of the absolute finest coaching jobs ever." Most people consider Auburn's season to be a colossal disappointment with poor coaching.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:20 pm to Nix to Twillie
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hen, other than 2006, has a Les Miles team been better at the end of the season than at the beginning? Think about it.
This is not what the Les lovers want to hear.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:23 pm to John Keating
How are u going to cover up 2-6 in conference? And they haven't won that independence bowl game against Mary of the poor just yet. It certainly will not be against the likes of Notre Dame. Just stop or come up with another silly word like fantasy. whis your pick to replace Miles?
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:24 pm to LSUANDY25
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How are u going to cover up 2-6 in conference?
I'm not doing that. Read my post above.
You are fantasizing again.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:26 pm to John Keating
Which part of your post is accurate?
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:27 pm to RedTigerRulz
And I'm not even trying to bash him. I think he's a good coach and he runs a strong program. I think he's one of the top 25 coaches in college football. I just think teams get better as the season goes on under GREAT coaching, no matter how good or bad the athletes are.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:28 pm to Nix to Twillie
Did they not get better each week 2 years ago?
Who are these GREAT coaches u are referring to?
Who are these GREAT coaches u are referring to?
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:33 pm to FourthQuarter
no he isn't he is a dinosaur
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:36 pm to FourthQuarter
Let me ask you something, and I want you to be very honest. Did you think LSU would be able to get back to No. 1 after 2008? 2009? Did you think LSU would get up to No. 2 in 2015?
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:43 pm to LSUANDY25
No, they didn't. They played better and better each week until the Ole Miss game. Then it was hit or miss the rest of the season. There was no steady incline in our level of play.
We have a different definition of the word great, so putting that aside, and not even mentioning names like Saban and Meyer--those are obvious, I'll tell you that I think Bob Stoops, Brett Bielema, and Gus Malzahn are better coaches than Les Miles. Why? Because their teams are constantly improving. Auburn and Arkansas looked atrocious at the beginning of the year and starting around the midway point of the season they began improving week to week.
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Who are these GREAT coaches u are referring to?
We have a different definition of the word great, so putting that aside, and not even mentioning names like Saban and Meyer--those are obvious, I'll tell you that I think Bob Stoops, Brett Bielema, and Gus Malzahn are better coaches than Les Miles. Why? Because their teams are constantly improving. Auburn and Arkansas looked atrocious at the beginning of the year and starting around the midway point of the season they began improving week to week.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:45 pm to 225Tyga
Recruits excellent
Clean program
Love of players and fans
Highest win percentage ever at LSU
Won Sec title/BCS title
Great representative of school
Clean program
Love of players and fans
Highest win percentage ever at LSU
Won Sec title/BCS title
Great representative of school
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