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re: Lets be honest. If we fired O tom., does anyone have faith in Alleva making a good hire?
Posted on 9/17/17 at 6:50 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 9/17/17 at 6:50 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Let me ask you question, after Dave Aranda's defense couldn't even slow down Fitzgerald and company last night, do you still feel we should fire coach O and replace him with Dave Aranda? By the way, should Nick Saban have been fired after he lost to Louisiana-Monroe in his first year? If not, why not?
Anyway, Einstein once it became obvious Jimbo wasn't going to come to LSU for less than a small fortune and that Thom Herman only wanted to use LSU to scare Texas into firing his predecessor, the media published polls showing that the people of Louisiana were overwhelmingly supporting the hiring of coach O to become the new head football coach of LSU. Then combine that with the fact that coach O received the highest recommendations from some of the most respected coaches in the history of college football, that both the players on the team and the former players were all lobbying extremely hard for coach O to be hired, and then take into account coach O's two winning records as an interim head coach, and then it's very easy to see why Alleva and the LSU administration made the decision they made to hire coach O as the new LSU head football coach.
In fact, had they hired anyone other than coach O, they would have been run out of the state of Louisiana tarred and feathered by the people of Louisiana.
In addition, it was only here on the Rant where the many Miles butt lickers pitched fits, screamed, blamed, lied, and condemn Alleva for doing his job. Outside the Rant though the people of Louisiana were very thrilled.
Anyway, Einstein once it became obvious Jimbo wasn't going to come to LSU for less than a small fortune and that Thom Herman only wanted to use LSU to scare Texas into firing his predecessor, the media published polls showing that the people of Louisiana were overwhelmingly supporting the hiring of coach O to become the new head football coach of LSU. Then combine that with the fact that coach O received the highest recommendations from some of the most respected coaches in the history of college football, that both the players on the team and the former players were all lobbying extremely hard for coach O to be hired, and then take into account coach O's two winning records as an interim head coach, and then it's very easy to see why Alleva and the LSU administration made the decision they made to hire coach O as the new LSU head football coach.
In fact, had they hired anyone other than coach O, they would have been run out of the state of Louisiana tarred and feathered by the people of Louisiana.
In addition, it was only here on the Rant where the many Miles butt lickers pitched fits, screamed, blamed, lied, and condemn Alleva for doing his job. Outside the Rant though the people of Louisiana were very thrilled.
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 6:57 pm to DrSteveBrule
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Having a disaster of a coach in a sport pretty much ensures the next one will be a big hire. And before anyone says anything, Les Miles was not a disaster even after he fell off.
anyone calling Miles a disaster is either football ignorant or biased. regardless what ever you think of his coaching abilities he had one of the most accomplished tenures in sec history.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 6:58 pm to Space Cowboy
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the media published polls showing that the people of Louisiana were overwhelmingly supporting the hiring of coach O to become the new head football coach of LSU.
This isn't all that surprising. Louisiana pretty consistently ranks second to last in education. We're not dealing with very bright people as a whole, particularly when we're talking about people that thought Orgeron would be a good hire.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 6:59 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Don't even respond to ppl who say that. Miles wasn't a disaster far from it. You know I'm not a pro Miles guy but even I can admit while I think he wasted a couple of championship roster he far exceeded my expectations for him at LSU.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
He woulda hired DD Breaux.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:04 pm to Rickdaddy4188
The problem actually goes higher than Alleva. It extends to his boss (F. King Alexander) and the LSU Board of Supervisors. The culture of excellence that was instituted by Mark Emmert and Saban is long gone. It appears that the "good ole boys" are back in control at LSU. That doesn't bode well for us.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:05 pm to sheek
I have no faith in this program after last night. Really I lost faith last year especially when Alleva made a mockery out of the coaching search and hired O. Like any true LSU fan, I came full circle and got on board. The first game the red flags were raised especially with the red zone offense particularly with the fact that BYU stopped us on a goaline stand. I was like not this shite again. Last night reaffirmed all the reasons why I blasted this hire last November. I have lost complete faith in the program for the 3rd time in a year. So to be honest, I have zero faith in Alleva. His high water mark will always be hiring Wade. As much as I love LSU basketball and Love the Wade hire, we are a football school and he has completely shite the bed with the program.
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:05 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Realistically, Alleva is probably here for longer than most of us would hope.
But in response to your question, no, I do not have any faith in Alleva's ability to find a top notch coach if and when Coach O departs.
But in response to your question, no, I do not have any faith in Alleva's ability to find a top notch coach if and when Coach O departs.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:05 pm to riverparish
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After the debacle at Duke that Alleva was involved in, it pisses me off that he was even given an interview here much less hired.
At Duke and LSU, Alleva has been consistent in his actions. Compare the Duke fiasco where he ruined the careers and lives of several innocent people by caving in to a hoax to his LSU exploits, especially the Miles firing and O hiring. He proved himself to be spineless, lazy, and perfectly willing to cave in and go for the easy solution in order to take the heat off of his own arse. He is not leader. He is nothing more than a sniveling, cowardly politician. Frick him.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:06 pm to Space Cowboy
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Let me ask you question, after Dave Aranda's defense couldn't even slow down Fitzgerald and company last night, do you still feel we should fire coach O and replace him with Dave Aranda?
over ed orgeron?yes. dave aranda has proven he can run a successful side of the ball.
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y the way, should Nick Saban have been fired after he lost to Louisiana-Monroe in his first year? If not, why not
before coming to bama saban had taken the Cleveland Browns to being the #1 defense in the nfl and had rebuilt lsu into a powerhouse.
ed orgeron has never had any success at any position above dline coach.
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Anyway, Einstein once it became obvious Jimbo wasn't going to come to LSU for less than a small fortune and that Thom Herman only wanted to use LSU to scare Texas into firing his predecessor, the media published polls showing that the people of Louisiana were overwhelmingly supporting the hiring of coach O to become the new head football coach of LS
i dont care what people from this state wanted. it shows football ignorance to gove one of the most demanding jobs in cfb to someone thats never in his 32 years of coaching even been a successful coordinator,let alone head coach.
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Then combine that with the fact that coach O received the highest recommendations from some of the most respected coaches in the history of college footba
holy shite. for 90% of his career, literally 90%, no ad has thought enough of his coaching to give him a coordinators job let alone a HC job.
youve repeatedly said miles not getting job offers means he sucks. so miles not getting a HC offer in the last 11 months means he sucks yet O not getting offers for 29 years means he is well thought of. youre too stupid to rralize youre shitting on your own stances.
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In fact, had they hired anyone other than coach O, they would have been run out of the state of Louisiana tarred and feathered by the people of Louisiana.
bullshite
addition, it was only here on the Rant where the many Miles butt lickers pitched fits, screamed, blamed, lied, and condemn Alleva for doing his job. Outside the Rant though the people of Louisiana were very thrilled.
bullshite.
ive never met anyone that had O as their 1st choice. even our ad didnt have o as his 2nd choice.
get a grip on reality.
even that dumbass les miles never had a ranked lsu team lose that bad to an unranked team.
but hey we can add 2 more records to thhose bullshite records O had ACCOMPLISHED.
O's records at lsu just 3 games into his tenure
1. worst lsu loss ever in lsu - msu history
2. worst loss for a ranked lsu team at the hands of an unranked opponent
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:08 pm to Madking
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The fault last night is on Aranda and Canada.
There it is. #1 on the "deflect blame from O" spreadsheet.
O hired canada, so ultimately it's on him either way.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:10 pm to Madking
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Madking
last night was top 5 disappointment for me since 2001.
1. 1/9/12
2. arky 2007
3 arky 04k (was that the 2 hail mary game)
4. last night
5. 05 uga seccg
im sure im just sayibg that because its fresh but man i was so excited after the 1st 2 weeks
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:11 pm to SportTiger1
it amazes me All the O coolaid drinkers can never acknowledge O is mostly to blame.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:13 pm to Space Cowboy
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In fact, had they hired anyone other than coach O, they would have been run out of the state of Louisiana tarred and feathered by the people of Louisiana.
You post this often...but do you not realize the problem. The people thrilled about the hire have zero qualifications to hire a football coach. Trust me I have many FB friends who were very excited about O. Most are women..the other are dumb.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:16 pm to SportTiger1
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You post this often...but do you not realize the problem. The people thrilled about the hire have zero qualifications to hire a football coach. Trust me I have many FB friends who were very excited about O. Most are women..the other are dumb.
and the stance that one of the worst educated populaces was clamoring for something is not the hill you want to die on. there are more people that think the earth is flat than people that wanted O as the hc so i guess the earth is flat.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:21 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I have more faith in him than the late Joe Dean, but that's not saying much.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:28 pm to SportTiger1
And there it is selective memory using partial statements and spin. You acknowledged Canada but not Aranda's failure just to attack O. All of your post are biased and can't be taken seriously. Once again you've given not one example of what O did specifically that cost us the game. The truth is the both coordinators had terrible games the Dline was thin and were exposed the Oline continued to play aweful vs good defenses the play calling on both sides was bad we missed the opportunities we had to make difference making plays and the refs swung the game by at least 14 points. We have a young team that played a bad game top to bottom it happens. This same thing happened 2 games in a row in 2014, changes were made and we were a totally different team the rest of the way. This melt is more about the anti-O haters who've been waiting to pounce than the actual game. He's not going to be fired either start looking at things realistically or get lost.
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:32 pm to Madking
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You can blame O all you want but so far nobody has given a single example I what O did to cost us this game
come on. the hc gets the blame.
we have the 2nd most penalties in cfb. thats a direct result of coaching.
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The fault last night is on Aranda and Canada. Arandas gameplan was pure garbage and Canada to this point has shown nothing of the offense he ran at Pitt
if O isnt giving the Ok on these gameplans then why do we even need O?
if he is void of any blame for the gameplans why the hell are we paying him millions of dollars?
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Last night was bad but it could be a valuable lesson that we need to extinguish all of our old habits (run heavy) and totally go to what Canada did at Pit
the only reason we had any offensive yards was our run game.
at the beginning of the 4th quarter we had 6.4 yards per carry and our only score was running the ball 8 times.
you know im a big Etling fan but he didnt have it last night for the majority of the game amd when he did make a good throw our wrs forgot they were playing on offense.
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His system works he upset great teams last year with it and his concepts are being used in the NFL now, look at K.C. They're the suprise team in the league and they're using his stuff to do it.
KC didnt get their scheme from Matt Canada.
they still run the west coast with some spread and rpo concepts.
i did see Reid praising canada though.
why wouldn't canada be using his offense?
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:35 pm to SportTiger1
Not true when you lose a third of those recruiting classes to transfer and dismissal those classes are not what they were predicted to be. Especially when a good portion of those losses were top players in the country at their position and top players for our class. We've lost the no 1 Wr in his class the no 1 DT the no1 LB and number 1 positions in our particular classes twice that amount of times. We may have had top 5 classes on signing day but by opening week those class are ranked closer to 15-20.
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:36 pm to Hair of the Dog
No. What has he done to give the impression that he would and could make a good hire? Will Wade may end up being a great hire or may be a flop. It's all just speculation at this point. It's sad that the best coaching hire an AD has made is riding on a coach who hasn't coached an official game yet. I say (I really don't have a say as far as LSU is concerned though) fire Alleva and bring in a top notch AD. At that point let the new AD afire O and hire a new coach. If he can keep DA and MC great if not let him bring in his guys. Problem solved. Coach O lost me after the Florida loss last year.
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