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re: Les Miles's Record With a Returning QB
Posted on 3/8/15 at 10:19 am to RobbBobb
Posted on 3/8/15 at 10:19 am to RobbBobb
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Can somebody say, Jimbo Fisher?
Dd Fisher coach defense as well? Because those units were better than anything Chavis put out.
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Lets completely forget that he had to sit JJs arse on the bench to win vs Tenn, Fla, and Bama
Was Jarrett Lee not a returning starting QB?
quote:Was Jarrett Lee not a returning starting QB?
Dont even act like Miles was planning on Jarrett Lee going 8-0 for him
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I see you managed to forget 2009 9-4?
Starting two games because the other guy got injured doesn't make the backup a returning starter.
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And the best one yet 2007 Champions!!! (1st year starter)
Do I need to explain why I didn't include this year?
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Posted on 3/8/15 at 10:21 am to chilge1
Jordon Jefferson II era. God help us.
Posted on 3/8/15 at 10:25 am to km
In the last two years of the Jordan Jefferson era, LSU went 24-3 and won the SEC Championship.
We should be so lucky.
We should be so lucky.
Posted on 3/8/15 at 10:26 am to chilge1
AJ making a turnaround would be akin to converting a safety to QB IMO
Posted on 3/8/15 at 10:27 am to chilge1
If Harris is the starting QB then this thread is worthless
Posted on 3/8/15 at 10:32 am to NorthshoreTiger76
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If Harris is the starting QB then this thread is worthless
No, this thread is admission by the Miles fanbois that Les aint benching a Jr QB
Posted on 3/8/15 at 10:36 am to chilge1
quote:In his first fifteen starts, JJ completed more than 60% of his passes 8 times and failed to break 50% twice.
In the last two years of the Jordan Jefferson era, LSU went 24-3 and won the SEC Championship.
In 14 starts AJ has broken 60% once and failed to break 50% nine times.
AJ makes JJ look like Tom Brady.
Posted on 3/8/15 at 10:45 am to Earn Your Keep
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AJ as starter = NO confidence That's not being negative...just realistic. I just don't want to be here in 12 months with people still making excuses for him followed by saying "this" is his year.
Posted on 3/8/15 at 10:46 am to League Champs
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No, this thread is admission by the Miles fanbois that Les aint benching a Jr QB
Not a single person knows this.
Posted on 3/8/15 at 10:55 am to ShortyRob
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In his first fifteen starts, JJ completed more than 60% of his passes 8 times and failed to break 50% twice.
There's no question at this stage in their development that Jefferson was farther along than Jennings. 2009 was really a remarkable year for JJ when you consider that he was playing behind the worst OL I have witnessed at LSU. Our offense rushed for 1400 yards on the season.
The essential difference is that in 2010, Crowton completely stunted Jefferson's development before losing his position at season's end. Jennings has the benefit of having an offensive coordinator that is also a QB coach.
But most importantly, throwing the football is only a portion of the responsibilities of a quarterback, which is why Jennings started over Harris last year.
This post was edited on 3/8/15 at 10:59 am
Posted on 3/8/15 at 11:06 am to chilge1
quote:Um, that just makes the current situation worse. In that year, with AJ, we would've been Vandy bad. Worse really.
There's no question at this stage in their development that Jefferson was farther along than Jennings. 2009 was really a remarkable year for JJ when you consider that he was playing behind the worst OL I have witnessed at LSU. Our offense rushed for 1400 yards on the season.
The dude is just fricking terrible. He would have to make historic improvement to as good as a two QBs we all know weren't very good.
Your thread starts with a premise about how we have been with returning QBs but we have never been returning a total shite fest like this. The guys we point to as examples of bad LSU QBs that improved were LIGHT YEARS better than AJ so, there is virtually no comparison between other years of returning QBs and this one.
Posted on 3/8/15 at 11:22 am to ShortyRob
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Um, that just makes the current situation worse. In that year, with AJ, we would've been Vandy bad. Worse really.
How is a better overall team a worse situation? You'll have to explain that one to me.
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The dude is just fricking terrible. He would have to make historic improvement to as good as a two QBs we all know weren't very good.
The only time that Cameron returned the same QB from the previous season, Mettenberger made the biggest single year improvement in LSU history.
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The guys we point to as examples of bad LSU QBs that improved were LIGHT YEARS better than AJ so, there is virtually no comparison between other years of returning QBs and this one.
Those QBs also went their entire careers without a QB Coach. Now LSU has a very good one. Though I argue that Lee was equally as terrible in 2008, Jennings is more properly positioned for maturation.
Posted on 3/8/15 at 11:24 am to chilge1
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2005: 11-2
2006: 11-2
2009: 9-4
2010: 11-2
2011: 13-1
2013: 10-3
2014: 8-5
FIFY
Posted on 3/8/15 at 11:26 am to chilge1
24-3 yep ur right jefferson carried us to that record with his arm... If we had a qb worth a frick then
It would have 27-0 with ease our D was retarded good
It would have 27-0 with ease our D was retarded good
Posted on 3/8/15 at 11:28 am to mmcgrath
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mmcgrath
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Starting two games because the other guy got injured doesn't make the backup a returning starter.
Posted on 3/8/15 at 11:35 am to 15forHeisman
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24-3 yep ur right jefferson carried us to that record with his arm...
I dont appreciate being misquoted
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If we had a qb worth a frick then It would have 27-0 with ease our D was retarded good
Better QB play wouldn't have stopped Cam Newton from rushing for 400 against our defense or prevented Arkansas from scoring an 80 yard TD at the end of the first half.
Ryan Mallett threw for over 300 and Knile Davis rushed for 150. Thats not good defense.
This post was edited on 3/8/15 at 11:37 am
Posted on 3/8/15 at 11:40 am to chilge1
How much did we lose to those teams by.... Did you know if you score more points Than the opposing team you win the game!!!! Which means if you had a qb to stretch the field we would have scored more points which means we prolly Win those games jack a$$
This post was edited on 3/8/15 at 11:41 am
Posted on 3/8/15 at 11:42 am to chilge1
And you need to be banned for saying our D was not good
Posted on 3/8/15 at 11:45 am to chilge1
This is the same guy who started Andrew Hatch as our freaking starting quarterback. So yea, there is plenty to worry about!
Posted on 3/8/15 at 11:48 am to chilge1
quote:Um, we're talking about the QB situation and as you point out, the team JJ was working with didn't support him NEARLY as much and yet AJ was still WAY WORSE than JJ. Hence, the gap between the two is actually worse than stats alone tell you. AJ in 2009 would've been an unmitigated catastrophe. Meanwhile, if we had JJ 2009 in 2014, we might win the damned national title!
How is a better overall team a worse situation? You'll have to explain that one to me.
quote:So, JJ was DRAMATICALLY better than AJ in his first 15 starts despite AJ having a "good" QB coach. Ok. That sort of makes my point don't ya think?
Those QBs also went their entire careers without a QB Coach. Now LSU has a very good one
quote:And you're argument would be shite. JL was more mistake prone and that was driven in large part by the fact that he HAD to throw more than AJ. JL attempted 42 more passes over the course of 3 fewer games. Moreover, even in that godawful year for JL, he completed greater than 60% of his passes 4 times and greater than 50% 2 more times for a total of 6 out of 11 starts. JL proved that despite the INTs, he was actually capable of moving the LSU offense with his arm. AT NO frickING POINT THIS YEAR did AJ ever even sort of show us that he could do this.
Though I argue that Lee was equally as terrible in 2008
This is how bad AJ is. AJ is so fricking bad, that we actually look back at a QB situation that the fans recognized as a complete train wreck with fricking fondness!
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