2004 was a season following NFL departures after his first National Title. He was 9-3 that season.
This is why we can't have an honest discussion about these things. Saban gets the benefit of the doubt Miles is not afforded. But I'll play anyway...
In 2004, we were told that NFL departures were a GOOD thing, because it helped recruit better players. when Saban said this, we listened and accepted that. In 2013 when we look at all the guys that departed early for the NFL and Miles talks about that as a positive, we have fans that BLAME HIM for the departures and suggest that he's not doing his job keeping them in house!! Instead of pointing out that even MORE guys left, meaning we had recruited better, etc it's suddenly a negative. Typical.
In 2004, the team played down to Oregon St, lost a game they should not have to AU, got absolutely destroyed by UGA, played a 24-20 game with TROY, etc. All of these things were brushed aside in 2004...because we were so desperate not to lose Saban to one of the myriad of NFL teams his agent was constantly courting. Today, these things are hung around Les Miles neck.
The fact is, Miles' lives under a different set of standards than Saban did while here. You pint to the 9-4 record, while brushing past HOW the team lost those 4 games. You also brush past how they squeaked by lesser teams. however, if I was to bring up 2006 as an outstanding season, some asshat would point to how "it should have been" 12-0 if not for such and such Miles supposedly did to frick it all up. It's the very definition of a double standard.
I guess if 9-3 seasons taint Saban's legacy at LSU so much...can you explain how Miles had a 3 loss season last year in his EIGTH season here?
I never suggested it tainted anything, so I have no reason to answer a question where you put words in my mouth. I simply pointed out that while exceptional at LSU, Saban was never as perfect as far too many love lorn LSU fans seem to recall him being.