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Chimlim
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re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
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I'm saying you can't tout those great adjustments and then shift the blame to miles when those adjustments arent working against better defenses


I get that. But all I'm saying is that some people are giving Coach O a little slack because he DID improve the offense. But we will see what he can do now that he is the full time coach.


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Severely struggle? When did miles teams struggle against teams with run defenses in the triple digits?


I seem to remember Miles struggled mightily against Arkansas and Ole Miss.


dukke v
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re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
You will never get Ricky to admit to this.... plus he says he is not defending Miles by posting facts about him... well his last 4 posts in this thread he is using zero facts... just defending Miles.... he can't make up his mind.....


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Lonnie4LSU
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re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
"Has changed so quickly"

It's amusing to watch this play out. For Miles, 10 win seasons don't mean shite. Forget the fact that from 2005-2015 LSU was the ONLY SEC team to average 10 wins a year, they don't mean shite. But now it's, expecting 10 wins is too much!

Another storyline by the drama queens was that any coach in college football and most of the posters here could have won big right away at LSU, but now we have to wait a few years. Forget the fact recruiting has been outstanding for yrs. and we have great D.C./OC and that Coach O has been here years, for some reason only known to some out expectations for next yr shouldn't be high.

Why?? I expect west title and I think Coach O and the team does too.


vjm41
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Member since Jan 2008
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re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
There's 1 Winner- and then there's EVERYBODY ELSE, and it doesn't matter if you have 2 wins or 10 wins!!!!!! There's no 10 win trophy, that's just a talking point for losers!!!!!
VINCE LOMBORDI - There is a 2nd place bowl game, but it's a game for losers played by losers !!!!!
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LosTigres25
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Member since Jan 2017
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re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
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where we witnessed a boring, mundane, predictable, archaic, and downright painful brand of football to experience.


Dont say we. I couldnt wait for the next game or the next season, under Miles. Wasnt at all boring to me, other than the 3 game losing streak in 2015, I absolutely loved watching the Les Miles led Tigers kick alot of a@@.

Some of you are just ignorant to what and how the cfb game is played. Rick comes in here and slaps the shite outta most of you and you still come back for more, knowing full well he speaks the truth and knows way more than most.

The definition of stupidity is on full display at the Tiger rant on a daily basis.

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vjm41
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Member since Jan 2008
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re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
Yes and we now know that there are people on here as STUPID as Rick!!


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RedTigerRulz
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re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
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Rick comes in here and slaps the shite outta most of you and you still come back for more, knowing full well he speaks the truth and knows way more than most.

The definition of stupidity is on full display at the Tiger rant on a daily basis.


This tells me all I need to know about your dumbass. If you thought Miles brand of football was always exciting...you're beyond help.


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Lonnie4LSU
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re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
Spare me the 1 winner BS!

If you can only be content with a NC, you must be one discontented negative drama queen!



RedTigerRulz
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re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
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If you can only be content with a NC, you must be one discontented negative drama queen!



you missed his point...what a surprise.


cphill
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Member since Sep 2009
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re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
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The Florida loss last year was the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. We fumbled at the 2, then Florida threw one over Donte for a 98-yd TD pass. A 10-point swing. If that doesn't happen, we win the game


Yeah......but a lot of teams could say "if something didn't happen, we would have won."......

The problem is.....it did happen.....


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atltiger6487
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re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
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Forget the fact that from 2005-2015 LSU was the ONLY SEC team to average 10 wins a year, they don't mean shite.

In Miles' last 3 full years (plus the beginning of 2016), Miles went 15-11 in the SEC, 10-10 against the SEC West.

I don't much care what Miles did 10 years ago or what his average wins are. For a program with lofty aspirations like LSU, that has top recruiting classes, and incredible facilities, resources, etc., you have to stay up near the top.

The fact is we drastically under-performed during Miles' last 3+ years.

And the "10-win" measuring stick can be misleading - it needs context. For example, if we beat cupcakes and weaker SEC teams, but get pounded by 3 other SEC teams, we finish 5-3 in SEC, and then win a shitty bowl game. That's 10-3, and it doesn't mean much (see 2015, for example, assuming a win against McNeese).

By contrast, if we lose 2 close SEC games and finish 6-2 in SEC, and then lose a tight NY6 bowl to a very good team, we're also 10-3, but that's a much better 10-3 that we can accept.

Context, Lonnie.

Also, a "10-win" season isn't what it used to be. It really meant something back when I was a kid - 11 game schedule, no conference championship games, and far, far fewer bowl games. You win 10 games back in the 80s - that was a big deal.


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RedTigerRulz
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re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
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You win 10 games back in the 80s - that was a big deal.



This exactly!


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vjm41
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Member since Jan 2008
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re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
ATLTIGER6487- The best post that hits the mark, PERIOD!! SPOT ON!!!!! Early on His record was also padded by Saban and Jimbo recruits!! 12 Years no NC with his recruits, and also when we had the co-dummies as DC we went 8-5, and that was with good talent, he needed that great DC to cover up his short comings as a coach. I'm glad that era is over//// Great point about the 10 win seasons in the 80's and before, when it really meant something.
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dukke v
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re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
You are the biggest homer yet...., does Ricky touch you at night??????


vjm41
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re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
Homer? Who?


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Madking
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re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
Now you're putting words in my mouth rick. The Florida game was lost because of play calling and I've said that from game day until now. And I never said 10 wins is unreasonable i said going undefeated was. I also had very low expectations for 2014, we had no QB and most of our talent was young so all these stem entry's you're claiming I made are false. You've been reduced to assumptions and false accusations dude you're better than that. I don't take offense though I expect this kind of behavior from you when Miles is part of the discussion.


Rickdaddy4188
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Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
28271 posts

re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
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And I never said 10 wins is unreasonable i said going undefeated was


I realized that after I had posted.
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I also had very low expectations for 2014, we had no QB and most of our talent was young so all these stem entry's you're claiming I made are false.

Which is why I said
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I'm pretty sure you didn't 

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I don't take offense though I expect this kind of behavior from you when Miles is part of the discussion.

It's funny because you can't see that youre the same way just on the other side of the coin.


Rickdaddy4188
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Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
28271 posts

re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
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The fact is we drastically under-performed during Miles' last 3+ years. 


Underperformed but not drastically.

Posters such as yourself use nfl talent as the measuring stick for underachieving.

2014-15 team had all of 4 players drafted and 1 player made 1st team all sec.

2015-16 team had all of 5 players drafted and 2 players on 1st team all sec.


You can't talk about nfl talent all over the place as a reason to label it ," drastically underachieving" and then dismiss the fact that 6 other sec programs either matched or surpassed our number of players drafted in 2015& 2016.

2014 we started the 2nd most freshman in cfb.
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And the "10-win" measuring stick can be misleading - it needs context. For example, if we beat cupcakes and weaker SEC teams, but get pounded by 3 other SEC teams, we finish 5-3 in SEC, and then win a shitty bowl game. That's 10-3, and it doesn't mean much (see 2015, for example, assuming a win against McNeese). 


Holy shite.
10 wins is in no way anything but a decent season. It isn't elite but of you win 10 games playing in the sec west its a decent season. I've never seen a fan base more willing to shite on its seasons just so they can not give a former coach any credit. It's pathetic.


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Madking
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re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
Not true bro I knock all of our coaches when they deserve it. The only one that I didn't was Arnsparger because I was too young to understand a lot of it. And of course Skip.
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Rickdaddy4188
LSU Fan
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth
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arly on His record was also padded by Saban and Jimbo recruits!! 12 Years no NC with his recruits, and also when we had the co-dummies as DC we went 8-5, 


So what youre saying is you dont give Saban credit for his titles at lsu?

Also, if lsu was so set for success in 2005 why did the best coach of our generation lose 3 games in year 5?
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