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re: Kim Mulkey for Athletic Director

Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:36 pm to
You know that Bertman didn't hire Saban, right? And that any rational person would agree that the hiring of Saban largely contributed to Miles' early success and prevented him from being a mediocre to below average coach like he was from 2012-2016 with his .500 SEC record. Miles wasn't a good hire and a bunch of better coaches who would've seen more success following the house that Saban built were missed or passed over to hire him

If our school was halfway competent, we would've fired Alleva after his joke of a display last year and hired Scott Woodward (LSU grad who's responsible for Washington's recent athletic success and good hires and is an insanely good AD) before A&M got him. And you're actually sitting here acting like some random women's basketball coach would be a good AD hire. This is the problem with our fanbase
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33444 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:39 pm to
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Just because an unqualified Skip Bertman did a mediocre job


It never ceases to amaze me what some of you mental midgets think an athletic director does. Yes, hiring and firing coaches is a big part of it, but to say Bertman did a "mediocre" job is ridiculous. Bertman cleaned up Joe Dean's financial mess, hired competent business people to run the office, led a fund raising charge, and turned LSU athletics into a money maker instead of a money drain. He spearheaded the effort to get better facilities built, leading to improved success for programs like football and softball. He brought LSU athletics into the 21st century by not being a penny-pincher and not hiring "good ol boys" to run the athletic department. All of that is WAY more important than "oh, well he ran the track program into the ground".
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29115 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:39 pm to
I just feel like if Les Miles were that highly regarded as a head coach, more schools would be beating down his door with an offer. The fact purdue was even luke warm on the idea is telling. Les could give a school a solid 8 years, which is huge places like Purdue and Houston.


I'm more referencing the Laval hire than the Maineri hire. I actually like Maineri compared to the average rant poster. I think LSU can do better, but I know you can't just fire someone with his record.

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I was never sure why Henry left, but I didn't like it. I assumed it was a $$$-to-importance difference of opinion between himself and Skip.



Henry wanted adequate facilities and likely a raise. Crazy to think LSU track hasn't had locker rooms for more than 5 years now. Oregon owns college track anyway these days, not henry. still it cost us 10+ more national titles to claim at least
Posted by TIGERFANZZ
THE Death Valley
Member since Nov 2007
4057 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:41 pm to
I think our next AD should have a set of balls, heaven knows Alleva doesnt
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17693 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:47 pm to
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This is the problem with our fanbase


Yeah, okay.

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You know that Bertman didn't hire Saban, right?


I'll give you that.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 1:10 pm
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:48 pm to
And what exactly do we have to show for that? It's amazing to me that some of you "mental midgets" think that a fundraising charge outweighs the fact that he made relatively bad hires and ran several programs into the ground. I understand that AD entails more than hiring coaches, but hiring coaches is where 90% of an AD's value comes from.

Our entire athletic program is extremely mediocre right now in case you haven't noticed, smart guy. Twist it however you'd like and pump up his handling of its finances, but if he did a great job as AD in relevant duties, we wouldn't be sitting at 8-4 in football, missing the tournament in basketball with the best player in the country, and getting knocked out by small schools in the super regionals. I honestly don't care about getting a participation trophy because we have great finances when the product on the field is shite lately. I pay a ridiculous amount of money per season to be entertained by good coaches and athletes, not to pat myself on the back because our financial statements are squared away.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:48 pm to
She's got bigger balls than Alleva. Sign her up.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32383 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:48 pm to
Gtfo with this shite
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17868 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:51 pm to
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And what exactly do we have to show for that? It's amazing to me that some of you "mental midgets" think that a fundraising charge outweighs the fact that he made relatively bad hires and ran several programs into the ground. I understand that AD entails more than hiring coaches, but hiring coaches is where 90% of an AD's value comes from.

Our entire athletic program is extremely mediocre right now in case you haven't noticed, smart guy. Twist it however you'd like and pump up his handling of its finances, but if he did a great job as AD in relevant duties, we wouldn't be sitting at 8-4 in football, missing the tournament in basketball with the best player in the country, and getting knocked out by small schools in the super regionals. I honestly don't care about getting a participation trophy because we have great finances when the product on the field is shite lately. I pay a ridiculous amount of money per season to be entertained by good coaches and athletes, not to pat myself on the back because our financial statements are squared away.
I think at this point you need point out that you are no longer griping about Skip, but Alleva. Unless somehow Johnny Jones is also Skip's fault???
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12219 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:51 pm to
She sounds like us and we can hire her for less than a qualified candidate.
what more do you need?
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17693 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:51 pm to
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Gtfo with this shite


Nah
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:54 pm to
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She's from Louisiana

Sign her up!

All kidding aside - what are her qualifications? Obviously she's a great coach, but does she have any business or administrative experience?
Posted by SOL
Garland, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2950 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:57 pm to
I say hire Saban as AD in a year or 2.

His retirement job
Posted by oVo
Member since Dec 2013
11795 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:57 pm to
Is that Kramer's mom?
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33444 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:59 pm to
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Our entire athletic program is extremely mediocre right now in case you haven't noticed, smart guy. Twist it however you'd like and pump up his handling of its finances, but if he did a great job as AD in relevant duties, we wouldn't be sitting at 8-4 in football, missing the tournament in basketball with the best player in the country, and getting knocked out by small schools in the super regionals.


Bertman has been gone for 8 years.....how is any of this his fault? You come off as "that guy" who likes to bitch for the sake of bitching.

When Bertman retired in 2008, LSU had just won a national championship in football, he had recently hired the coach that would lead LSU to a national championship in baseball, women's basketball was in the middle of a run of 5 straight Final Fours, the softball and baseball stadiums were done or almost done, and he had fired John Brady as the basketball program was languishing. What was he supposed to do? Fire Miles on his way out the door after he just won a title?

But don't let any facts interrupt your unenlightened bitching.
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:06 pm to
Literally one sentence in that entire paragraph could be misconstrued to be about Johnny Jones, and it wasn't. Our basketball program has been bad for a long time and Skip certainly didn't do anything to help it. I know that you probably think that there's some clear line where Alleva takes over and WHOOPS SUDDENLY IT'S HIS FAULT but we've been paying for Skip's mistakes until this season in football. Les Miles was his mistake, the bad hire in Mainieri was his mistake, the decline in our track and field program was his mistake, the shitty path that women's basketball took was his mistake. And it's all manifesting now. Even if we get a good AD today, we'll still pay for his and Alleva's bullshite for years.

Almost anyone could've taken over the best baseball program in the history of college baseball and seen success until ~2010, along with anyone taking over for Nick Saban and seeing success. He was given the keys to a new Ferrari and made a bunch of bad hires and now we're seeing it sputter down the road all beat up and nobody wants to place any blame on him. I'm sorry that I'm not impressed with his ability to take over an athletic department that brings in $100,000,000 a year no matter what and make it "profitable" I.E. not completely frick it up. If you were given the keys to a business that brings in hundreds of millions of dollars I'd hope that you'd have the sense to hire someone to simply keep the finances straight and watch the money roll in, and that's what Skip is being praised for. It's not really that big of an accomplishment especially when you look at his mediocre to poor handling of head coaches. Just my opinion though
Posted by bababooey
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2009
1091 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:07 pm to
Is she the mother of an LSU athlete?
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:11 pm to
Just because Miles saw success after taking over Saban's program doesn't make him a long term good hire. And just because Mainieri saw success after taking over the machine that Bertman built doesn't make him a long term good hire. Both of them have proven that they can't get it done by their own skill and accord. Anyone can go out and put a ton of money into a random stock and make money, it doesn't mean that they're educated enough to do it consistently, and that's the problem with Miles and Mainieri. They were both shitty hires by Bertman and I'm sorry if you can't see that today, not really my problem if you can't though.

You come across to me like someone who can't follow a simple timeline. If Alabama would hire Ed Orgeron after Saban retired and he won a championship within 3 years (which he would), would that make Orgeron a "good hire", or the product of a great situation? Not sure what's so hard for people on this board to understand about that. Good moves are good moves no matter the outcome, and our athletics will be in a better position long term if they consistently make good moves coaching-wise, which didn't happen under Bertman
Posted by blackmouthcur
Member since Sep 2016
400 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:14 pm to
I think the names that you most often hear for the job are Jurich and Radacovich. Mulkey is what I would term a long- to no-shot candidate. From where is this coming?
Posted by apfour21
New Orleans, LA
Member since Nov 2012
3143 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:18 pm to
She's probably got more balls than Joe
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