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re: Kevin Steele is making an effort.....

Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by Stlsport
Shreveport
Member since Oct 2007
1014 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:47 pm to
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Hopefully everyone he recruits is extremely sound fundametally because we don't teach things like tackling, not over pursuing and proper positioning anymore.


Are you really this stupid?




Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39080 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:47 pm to
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we don't teach things like tackling, not over pursuing


How do you teach people how not to over pursue? I mean, this is the dumbest shite ever.

"OK Jethro, when you're running to tackle a feller don't run past him."
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:53 pm to
I agree...this site is getting worse by the day...these negatigers should just go eat a bullet...they are so miserable...
Posted by HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2010
8153 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:53 pm to
He can bring them, but can he coach them? The answer to that is no.
Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
2516 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:57 pm to
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He's just not that good of a defensive coordinator.

how many sacks do we have this year? 28. how many did we have last year? 19 (7 of which took place against Sam Houston).

I'm not sold on Steele either, but I think the D has been better this year than last year. From that pov, you can't call it a bust yet.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66332 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:02 pm to
I think a lot of Steeles problems can be fixed by playin man a lot more.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23326 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:10 pm to
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I think a lot of Steeles problems can be fixed by playin man a lot more.


This. We saw the proof in the A&M game. Zone requires guys to think a lot more about what they are doing. When players, especially young ones, aren't familiar or don't know exactly what to do, they play too slow, and are prone to busts.

We saw the complete breakdown busts that plagued the Syracuse, UF, and WKU games largely disappear by the Arkansas game (way too long, I know). Guys still got beat in zone. Switch offs and reads were too slow. Guys too bad angles and such. They just never quite got it.

However, the A&M game gives me hope that the D might be getting it now. They payed a hell of a lot better in that game. They were more aggressive and quick to the ball. The D Line got pressure. They tackled better. If the staff can leverage this big infusion of front 7 talent and our returning experience, the D could get back to business next year.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 11:34 pm
Posted by HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2010
8153 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:15 pm to
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I agree...this site is getting worse by the day...these negatigers should just go eat a bullet...they are so miserable...


It's mind boggling to know that our fans even think Steele is worth a shite, considering everyone is still fricking laughing that he is still a DC, and at a school like LSU. Les Miles football needs to have a great defense. When you take that away, his team fricking blows. We know his offense blows majority of the time, but don't compromise the most important aspect of his gameplan. My god, some people never fricking learn until they fail. We need excuses or a scape goat every year. People say a coach needs three years to install his scheme, but what if you hired a proven frick up (Steele) and he fricks your shite up 3 years in a row and then you fire him, and then another coach comes in and needs 3 years. 6 years lost for one frickip? Steele is the knife, Peveto is the heater, and the defense is the butter. You figure out what happens next. Miles if you keep him on staff, you are done. Save yourself now.
Posted by Stlsport
Shreveport
Member since Oct 2007
1014 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:20 pm to
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It's mind boggling to know that our fans even think Steele is worth a shite, considering everyone is still fricking laughing that he is still a DC, and at a school like LSU. Les Miles football needs to have a great defense. When you take that away, his team fricking blows. We know his offense blows majority of the time, but don't compromise the most important aspect of his gameplan. My god, some people never fricking learn until they fail. We need excuses or a scape goat every year. People say a coach needs three years to install his scheme, but what if you hired a proven frick up (Steele) and he fricks your shite up 3 years in a row and then you fire him, and then another coach comes in and needs 3 years. 6 years lost for one frickip? Steele is the knife, Peveto is the heater, and the defense is the butter. You figure out what happens next. Miles if you keep him on staff, you are done. Save yourself now.


This post is mind boggling. You spent a lot of time typing a lot of nonsense.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8533 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:23 pm to
Are you serious? It's called discipline and assignment football. Any HS player should have learned these basics.

By the way over pursuing is not a missed tackle. Over pursuit is not maintaining position or gap integrity, for instance when a play goes away from a DE, he needs to avoid over pursuit so that he does not become susceptible to a reverse.

Your smartass example is coachable as well, it's called breaking down and making a forum tackle instead of trying to make an SC top 10 hit, which usually ends up in a wiff.

Yes both of these things are fundamentals and are coachable.

For the person above who said this year's D is better than last year's D, are you kidding me? We had the # 1 overall D in the conference last year.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 11:41 pm
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
1025 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:35 pm to
quote:

Steele will be fine. Ran lots of different looks against A&M


Ole Miss had an easy time with A&M on that side of the ball, so I'm not really wowed by that. I'm willing to give Steele another chance though. We need some more consistency in passing defense.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164011 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:42 pm to
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No first year DC at a program is going to have his scheme operate at a high standard. fricking idiots.

LSU's defense was very solid in 2009.

LSU gave up 19 points or more in their first 10 games this season. A new "record". 20+ after Mississippi State.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 11:31 am
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
1025 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:54 pm to
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LSU gave up 20 points or more in their first 10 games this season. A new "record".


That's such a stupid point. When you score over 40 points, who cares if the other team scores 20 instead of 17?

Also, let's just ignore the long kickoff and punt returns that either accounted for some of those points or set them up.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65811 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 12:02 am to
He's doing work

Hopefully Kirby leaving helps
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164011 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 12:51 am to
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That's such a stupid point. When you score over 40 points, who cares if the other team scores 20 instead of 17?

Then what happens when you run the Les Miles offense and you can't score more than 19 points in November? You lose three in a row. LSU's offense disappeared and the defense got even worse. Giving up 30 or more in three straight games.
Posted by euquol
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
2736 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:57 am to
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That's such a stupid point. When you score over 40 points, who cares if the other team scores 20 instead of 17?

Also, let's just ignore the long kickoff and punt returns that either accounted for some of those points or set them up.


You obviously missed the game against UF where 1 TD came from a fake FG and another was set up by a trick play (flea flicker).

It's really retarded to say we should ignore big plays when that's the breaks of the game. Without the fake FG, I think we lose to UF in OT.
Posted by euquol
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
2736 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 3:01 am to
quote:

That's such a stupid point. When you score over 40 points, who cares if the other team scores 20 instead of 17?


When's the last time an LSU offense scored 40+ points against a quality opponent?


UGA in 2013? When we scored 41. And they scored 44.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:02 am to
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Kevin Steele is making an effort..... by CaliTigerForLife


He needed to make some effort against Arky, Ole Miss and Bama.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65811 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:06 am to
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And they scored 44.


D was so bad 13
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65811 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:11 am to
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He needed to make some effort against Arky, Ole Miss and Bama.



aside from that freakishly long fg kick before the half.. we only gave up 10 to alabama.. kept us in that game.. when our offense was horrible and they had ball first..

we come out the half and throw an INT on our side of the ball which lead to a pretty easy td...

we couldn't do much of anything on offense, but there were stops to keep us in it.. too many three and outs..


really though.. sustained drives here and there would help.. especially since we don't have the depth up front needed to match up with better teams.. we are addressing this.

i just want steele gone, because i don't think people will be satisfied. i think he'll do a better job then whoever else would come here.. but we won't know that so it's moot.
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