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Kevin Cope is obviously not a fan...
Posted on 12/14/12 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 12/14/12 at 12:48 pm
His remarks in the Times_Picayune on Miles' raise. Why, exactly, are they interviewing this guy?!
NOLA Article
And this
NOLA Article
quote:
Now Cope's a smart guy, and I don't mean to make fun of him. While he counts himself as something of a fan and attends "a few games" each season, he is unconvinced LSU should have football as such a priority. Indeed, he sees the state's obsession with the game in general, and the Tigers in particular, as something like "an index of poverty," in that it points to a dearth of entertainment options he finds more intellectually stimulating.
And this
quote:
"You might say the obsession with football is indicative of the inadequacies of education in Louisiana," he argued, noting the hordes of people who descend on campus on autumn Saturdays largely comprise a "weekend culture with no interaction with the university" beyond the game.
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Posted on 12/14/12 at 12:54 pm to cajunintn
Posted on 12/14/12 at 12:55 pm to cajunintn
Hard to disagree with what he says. It is a sad state of affairs when your athletic department has to bail out the academic institution that it stands for.
This post was edited on 12/14/12 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 12/14/12 at 12:55 pm to cajunintn
Cope sounds like a pretentious arse.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 12:55 pm to cajunintn
There is a strange correlation of shitty public education systems and the popularity of college football. I love college football myself and am in SC. Our public school system blows...bama? Mississippi? Georgia?
Posted on 12/14/12 at 12:58 pm to Foolish cock
quote:
There is a strange correlation of shitty public education systems and the popularity of college football. I love college football myself and am in SC. Our public school system blows...bama? Mississippi? Georgia?
There are other correlations as well, as in, quality of the football played, demographics, etc.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 1:48 pm to ProjectP2294
lol, well as has been said many times on this board.."consider the source" just go to this guys pupil ratings (he is a terrible prof in the eyes of most students), or his picture (worth 1,000 words), or his stance on teacher's pay, or his personal life issues(well known) or even listen to (or try to) one of his classes on youtube, the guy is a poorly spoken, pompous, overpaid, union lackey who is the rep for lsu faculty- feel bad for most of them, because is an empty suit and many of them are hard working people who teach well...
Posted on 12/14/12 at 1:48 pm to ProjectP2294
While I love Tiger football, he hits the nail on the head when he talks about football demographics. Football is more popular among lesser-educated, blue collar people?
In other news, water is wet.
I'm not saying its an absolute, but lets not kill the messenger for speaking the truth... Even if he did come off as a pretentious arse.
In other news, water is wet.
I'm not saying its an absolute, but lets not kill the messenger for speaking the truth... Even if he did come off as a pretentious arse.
This post was edited on 12/14/12 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 12/14/12 at 1:58 pm to reddy tiger
While I love Tiger football, he hits the nail on the head when he talks about football demographics. Football is more popular among lesser-educated, blue collar people?
In other news, water is wet.
I'm not saying its an absolute, but lets not kill the messenger for speaking the truth... Even if he did come off as a pretentious arse.
wow, and basketball is popular at places like UConn (richest $ state in US), syracuse (top 20 academic schools), St Johns (10th winningest program, in manhattan) etc, etc. and it brings up just as much fanatic and slimey behavoir as football...so are you saying that the "smarer people" like cleaner sports and pay less (what is Jim Calhoun making as his program sits out of NCAA's for academics???), come on! there are points to be made on both sides, but education and sports fanatics cuts across all sports and all areas
In other news, water is wet.
I'm not saying its an absolute, but lets not kill the messenger for speaking the truth... Even if he did come off as a pretentious arse.
wow, and basketball is popular at places like UConn (richest $ state in US), syracuse (top 20 academic schools), St Johns (10th winningest program, in manhattan) etc, etc. and it brings up just as much fanatic and slimey behavoir as football...so are you saying that the "smarer people" like cleaner sports and pay less (what is Jim Calhoun making as his program sits out of NCAA's for academics???), come on! there are points to be made on both sides, but education and sports fanatics cuts across all sports and all areas
Posted on 12/14/12 at 2:07 pm to reddy tiger
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Football is more popular among lesser-educated, blue collar people.
I actually don't think this is true, especially when it comes to major college football. Precisely because of its connection with the university, college football tends to attract a higher-class following than the NFL does. Just compare a Saints crowd to an LSU crowd and you'll see what I mean. I think the same is true for UGA fans versus Falcons fans, Texas fans versus Cowboys fans, etc.
More to the point, Cope is an absolute tool. He is a self-parody that embodies everyone's worst stereotypes about academia. Does he really believe that Louisiana's interest in football stems from a lack of "more edifying" entertainment options? Sure, Kevin, nobody shows up for Rutgers games because everyone in New Jersey is at the symphony
. What a moron...
Posted on 12/14/12 at 2:10 pm to cajunintn
I haven't heard Kevin Cope speak without complaining about something.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 4:37 pm to cajunintn
And how much $$$$$ does LSU football contribute to the university so that all the tenured professors can keep their jobs????
Cope needs to accept reality and deal with it. No football = less school, less education, fewer professors, etc.
Embrace the Hat!
Cope needs to accept reality and deal with it. No football = less school, less education, fewer professors, etc.
Embrace the Hat!
Posted on 12/14/12 at 5:04 pm to Foolish cock
Heck...Up here we've got the Wal-Wolverines
Posted on 12/14/12 at 5:09 pm to cajunintn
frick that dope. I have 3 degrees and a masters. I also happen to love football and despise the arts.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 5:16 pm to cajunintn
What an arrogant arse. You might say that the obsession with football by faculty members is indicative of the overestimation of their own self worth. If he doesn't like the culture or entertainment options in Louisiana he should go to someplace that fills his needs. He should not bitch about the guy that brings in the money that pays his salary. But then, he could always refuse any money that comes from the football program.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 5:52 pm to dinosaur
The relationships, and the reactions, remind one of arguments about red-state anti intellectualism.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 6:43 pm to SpookeyTiger
quote:
re: Kevin Cope is obviously not a fan... (Posted on 12/14/12 at 4:37 p.m. to cajunintn) And how much $$$$$ does LSU football contribute to the university so that all the tenured professors can keep their jobs???? Cope needs to accept reality and deal with it. No football = less school, less education, fewer professors, etc.
That is extremely rare in college football...and admirable in my opinion. I dont think there are more than a handful of teams in america that make a profit in sports and then give part of that profit to academia.
This post was edited on 12/14/12 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 12/14/12 at 6:59 pm to reddy tiger
quote:
While I love Tiger football, he hits the nail on the head when he talks about football demographics. Football is more popular among lesser-educated, blue collar people?
Michigan, Notre Dame, USC, Stanford? I think this would be news to the fans of these institutions. Blue collar? I would bet there are more white collar fans than you would ever know. Think about the price of season tickets. More white collar fans than blue would be my guess.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 7:32 pm to Beached Tiger
quote:
While I love Tiger football, he hits the nail on the head when he talks about football demographics. Football is more popular among lesser-educated, blue collar people?
I guess the "less educated, blue collar people" are the one who sit in the sky
boxes ????
Posted on 12/14/12 at 7:37 pm to Foolish cock
quote:
I love college football myself and am in SC. Our public school system blows...bama? Mississippi? Georgia?
Michigan, Notre Dame, USC and Texas are all in the Top 10 in all time wins with massive followings.
All four are outstanding universities.
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