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Just a observation from watching bama's defense vs our offense last year again
Posted on 3/16/16 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 3/16/16 at 4:36 pm
Bama ran a 3-4 what i would guess was 80% of the time with a massive nose tackle, and it seemed to be very similar to aranda's schemes with LBs flying everywhere. Sometimes i would only see 2 down on the DL
They effectively plugged all the holes and were able to quickly get to the edge with this
They effectively plugged all the holes and were able to quickly get to the edge with this
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 4:39 pm
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 4:41 pm to DVinBR
They also has a shite ton of depth something LSU didn't have on the defensive line last year. LSU has filled that gap a bit
Posted on 3/16/16 at 4:44 pm to DVinBR
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Bama ran a 3-4 what i would guess was 80% of the time with a massive nose tackle, and it seemed to be very similar to aranda's schemes with LBs flying everywhere. Sometimes i would only see 2 down on the DL
Similar but different. Aranda runs a one gap 3-4 which means the d-line shoots gaps and causes havoc in the backfield. Disrupts the play before it starts. Bama is a 2 gap which means the d-line is responsible for 2 gaps and basically is asked to stalemate the o-line an allow linebackers to run clean and make the play. That is why Bama always seems to have a dominant linebacker. Both can be very effective if taught properly and executed with good technique.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 4:51 pm to DVinBR
all defenses have a weakness if the offense has the talent to exploit it.
what was bama's? imo, we needed to pass the ball against them and just didn't have the ability to do it. also, our blocking didn't have the ability to give the qb time to pass.
scheme is important but execution is much more. and having the talent to execute is much more.
what was bama's? imo, we needed to pass the ball against them and just didn't have the ability to do it. also, our blocking didn't have the ability to give the qb time to pass.
scheme is important but execution is much more. and having the talent to execute is much more.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 4:55 pm to LSU GrandDad
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scheme is important but execution is much more.
I agree with this... poor scheme executed very well will get you better results than the perfect scheme executed poorly..
Posted on 3/16/16 at 4:57 pm to DVinBR
Their scheme is good but the main issue over the the last few years is that their OLine and DLine maul our lines to the point where we basically get gassed and roll over. Its also proven to be easy for them to shut our limited offenses down completely.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 4:58 pm to tzimme4
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They also has a shite ton of depth something LSU didn't have on the defensive line last year. LSU has filled that gap a bit
They also preyed on our lack of balance by teeing off on all run action the entire game.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:05 pm to therick711
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They also preyed on our lack of balance by teeing off on all run action the entire game.
This more than anything.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:41 pm to DVinBR
Bama's defense, like every other remotely capable defense we play, beats us because they know what we are going to do, how we are going to do it, and who is going to do it, before we even snap the ball. Everything from our personnel packages, the way we huddle, the formations, etc all telegraph what we are going to do. And then, even after the defense points the the freaking hole we are bout to run to, we don't even call a check or audible.
The scheme doesn't matter if there is no deception.
The execution won't matter if there is no deception.
The personnel won't matter if there is no deception.
The talent won't matter if there is no deception.
Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure no one on our staff understands this. Miles actually embraces the philosophy of "daring to stop us" even if they know the play. He thinks "execution" should still win out. Well, it doesn't. In any sport.
The scheme doesn't matter if there is no deception.
The execution won't matter if there is no deception.
The personnel won't matter if there is no deception.
The talent won't matter if there is no deception.
Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure no one on our staff understands this. Miles actually embraces the philosophy of "daring to stop us" even if they know the play. He thinks "execution" should still win out. Well, it doesn't. In any sport.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:11 pm to rotrain
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Miles actually embraces the philosophy of "daring to stop us" even if they know the play. He thinks "execution" should still win out. Well, it doesn't. In any sport.
The San Antonio Spurs, Chicago Bulls, Boston Celtics, Kurt Warner Rams, virtually all baseball champions, etc. disagree...
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:26 pm to rotrain
Execution will almost always win out. In any sport. It doesn't work against Alabama because, well they can execute pretty well too.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:43 pm to RummelTiger
Thats strange. I never saw MJ walk down the court and announce what play they were going to run. Never saw any of those other teams do it. And i guess catchers don't try to hide what pitch they are calling either. Also saw Warner checking out of plays, etc.
Deceiving your opponent is a near universal tenet in sports, competition, war, etc.... Those teams you mention also did it. LSU is one of the few teams in any sport at any level I have ever seen that so utterly disregards something so fundamental to sport itself.
Maybe you don't think it's important that Linebackers were literally pointing to the correct hole pre-snap this year. But if you don't care whether we do it or not, ask yourself if it would hurt give our perennially anemic offensive production.
Deceiving your opponent is a near universal tenet in sports, competition, war, etc.... Those teams you mention also did it. LSU is one of the few teams in any sport at any level I have ever seen that so utterly disregards something so fundamental to sport itself.
Maybe you don't think it's important that Linebackers were literally pointing to the correct hole pre-snap this year. But if you don't care whether we do it or not, ask yourself if it would hurt give our perennially anemic offensive production.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:55 pm to rotrain
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Thats strange. I never saw MJ walk down the court and announce what play they were going to run. Never saw any of those other teams do it. And i guess catchers don't try to hide what pitch they are calling either. Also saw Warner checking out of plays, etc. Deceiving your opponent is a near universal tenet in sports, competition, war, etc.... Those teams you mention also did it. LSU is one of the few teams in any sport at any level I have ever seen that so utterly disregards something so fundamental to sport itself. Maybe you don't think it's important that Linebackers were literally pointing to the correct hole pre-snap this year. But if you don't care whether we do it or not, ask yourself if it would hurt give our perennially anemic offensive production.
lol...
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:39 pm to Tigerdev
quote:This. Bama's lines are bigger and stronger than ours. Supposedly Les and Co are working on this problem.
the main issue over the the last few years is that their OLine and DLine maul our lines to the point where we basically get gassed and roll over.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:59 pm to rotrain
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Thats strange. I never saw MJ walk down the court and announce what play they were going to run. Never saw any of those other teams do it. And i guess catchers don't try to hide what pitch they are calling either. Also saw Warner checking out of plays, etc.
Harris checks out of plays. He has said as much. And what Warner and the rams ran is what cam runs. They just don't have a qb good enough rt now. Hopefully it clicks with Harris. But the Rams showed you exactly how to run an air coryell offense and how to do it featuring a stud rb.
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:03 pm to DVinBR
I think it is some of both scheme and depth. Granted, Bama has had superior depth on both sides of the line. But, our scheme also has played a big part in why Bama has shut our offense down. If Bama has a weakness, it would be lateral speed, with their defense designed to plug the middle of the field. You have to utilize lateral misdirection on offense against them.
Last year, our best performance in the 2nd quarter was when we used LF as a decoy and employed misdirection off that. When we started going back to LF as we got inside the 30, Bama shut us down again.
Last year, our best performance in the 2nd quarter was when we used LF as a decoy and employed misdirection off that. When we started going back to LF as we got inside the 30, Bama shut us down again.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:16 pm to DVinBR
We did not block
Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:44 pm to dgnx6
The Rams featured Marshall Faulk in the passing game.
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