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SwampBandit
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Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
Not sure if this has been talked about or not but do any of y'all think if Greedy took Tollivers spot that Tolliver and Jackson should battle out for the opposite side... Greedy well deserves the CB position but I don't see all the greatness in Donte, guy can make some plays but he does get burned and sometimes doesn't get around to look for the ball.... from what I see in Tolliver he doesn't get burned well at least during last year but always failed to get his head around, does anyone think Donte gets burned to often and should have someone battling for his position or is it just me


memphis tiger
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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Not sure if this has been talked about or not



OMG....again


Where were you earlier this week.

I guess you are another one who thinks you know better than Aranda.


SwampBandit
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
It's a simple question for other peoples opinions not some kind of statement or demand.

Not saying that at all but donte Jackson isn't some amazing CB..

Oh and sorry I have a job and can't scan TD 24/7 douche
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memphis tiger
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
Every corner gets beat and in the time they've both been here DJ has been more productive than KT who, despite being the rant favorite, has done jack since arriving on campus.

I know, I know... 5 star, endless potential. Well the production hasn't met that potential and he's lost his job to Greedy. Jackson has done nothing to warrant getting benched.

When he does or when KT shows he's actually better, Aranda will make the change.


memphis tiger
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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Not not saying that at all but donte Jackson isn't some amazing CB..



Maybe not, but he's proven to be more reliable than KT.

Do you honestly think the coaches are starting less talented players just because.


Space Cowboy
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
Leave it up to the coaches. That's what they get paid to do. Let them do their jobs and stop second guessing them.


SwampBandit
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
That's better Memphistiger and I d definitely saw that donte was better last year but maybe it was the booze but it seemed like he got burned and let some receivers get open last weekend, I know for sure the long pass was on him


memphis tiger
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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That's better Memphistiger and I d definitely saw that donte was better last year but maybe it was the booze but it seemed like he got burned and let some receivers get open last weekend, I know for sure the long pass was on him


I don't care about LAST YEAR. And what CB never gets beat?

DJ, at least according to the coaches earned the starting spot in the spring and summer camps.

KT got suspended and lost his spot to Greedy. KT was never starting over DJ this year.

And the long pass vs Chattanooga.... that was Delpit blowing the coverage. Donte wasn't even on the field.
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Penrod
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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Jackson isn't some amazing CB..


That's the funny thing. He is. Most of the vocal people on here wouldn't know a good corner any better than a good running back. A good RB, on here, is a guy with a five foot hole to run through.

Similarly, a good rant corner is one who gets mostly bad passes thrown his way. Donte is smothering wide receivers. He is an outstanding corner. From what I saw last year I would prefer Donte to Toliver.

LSU is neck deep in NFL corners, so maybe one day Donte will be beat out. If that happens he'll still be an outstanding corner. I'd like to see him 20 pounds heavier, but he might not have that in his genes. He has everything else, though.


moock blackjack
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
Jackson scares me!!!
Give me Greedy and Tolliver.


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memphis tiger
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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Jackson scares me!!!


He doesn't seem to scare Aranda.

Let that sink in for a minute.


moock blackjack
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
How often does Jackson get burnt or just beaten??


sjmabry
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
Brian Jones on CBS Inside CFB praised Greedy. "He is playing like someone who doesn't want to come off the field."


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Bert Macklin FBI
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
Idk what you are watching. I'm not saying Jackson shouldn't start but he's not an incredible CB that smothers receivers.

He's decent and has definitely earned the right to start but he has flaws.

His tackling is suspect, he often takes bad angles trying to undercut routes but arrives too late, his technique is often brushed aside as he relies on his speed. These are all flaws DJ has shown this year.

He also has plenty of positives which make him a pretty good player.

He's fast, he's experienced, he brings energy to the field, he's a good leader, he has good ball skills. This is just to name some.

Jackson is good enough to start and has earned it but neither he nor Tolliver (or greedy as of now) are anywhere near the level of Tre White, mo Claiborne, the honey badger, or Patrick Peterson.

While I do agree the it's jackson's spot and it should remain his until Tolliver proves something, don't try to put him in the same category as those cats above.


memphis tiger
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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How often does Jackson get burnt or just beaten??


I don't know coach, what does your analysis of the game fill say?


I'd bet its less than you seem to think.

Just because a WR makes a catch doesn't mean the CB got burned. Sometimes a great throw and catch beat perfect coverage.

Again I'm not claiming DJ is infallible, but I can't for the life of me, understand the hate he gets on here.

Especially when the player everybody wants to replace him with has never shown himself to be better. KT has done nothing but get hurt and suspended since he's been here.

Finally, Dave Aranda is the one coach on this staff I won't question.
If he thinks DJ should be the starter, who the frick are any of you to argue otherwise.


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memphis tiger
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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While I do agree the it's jackson's spot and it should remain his until Tolliver proves something, don't try to put him in the same category as those cats above.


I don't think anyone is saying he's PP or Mo Claiborne, but he will play in the NFL and (unless something changes) will probably get drafted ahead of KT.

But this idea that KT is on those guys level and should put DJ on the bench is laughable.
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Bert Macklin FBI
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
I agree that KT is not on that level either. My response was to you saying donte is "an outstanding corner that smothers receivers." Mo Claiborne and Tre White and those guys were incredible corners that smothered receivers, donte is just a pretty good corner. He's not the liability that some make him out to be but he definitely doesn't "smother receivers" either.
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clamdip
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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Donte is smothering wide receivers. He is an outstanding corner.
nope.


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memphis tiger
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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donte is just a pretty good corner. He's not the liability that some make him out to be but he definitely doesn't "smother receivers" either


I agree for the most part, but think he is a little better than "pretty good".


GreatLakesTiger24
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
DAE OMG Donte sux!?!


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