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It's sad that the head coach of LSU has to rely on his mentors to make decisions
Posted on 9/17/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 9/17/17 at 2:57 pm
Remember when Coach O said that Jenkins is his mentor and he asks Jenkins what to do all the time? Or when he said he will ask all of his coaches as to what to do before ever doing anything? What kind of head coach can't make decisions on his own or be confident in what he's doing?
Les may have been stuck in the 1950s on offense but he didn't need a mentor or have ask anyone about what to do as HC. O is still trying to learn how to be a head coach.
Les may have been stuck in the 1950s on offense but he didn't need a mentor or have ask anyone about what to do as HC. O is still trying to learn how to be a head coach.
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 3:11 pm
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 2:59 pm to rmnldr
How old are you? Clearly you aren't in any type of major corporation. Some of the smartest people in the world have mentors.
Perhaps if Les had a mentor, he would still be a coach.
Perhaps if Les had a mentor, he would still be a coach.
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:00 pm to rmnldr
Nothing wrong with having a mentor. Everyone should have someone in their lives they can go to to get advice
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:00 pm to rmnldr
Asking your coaches opinions isn't a bad thing. It's actually the arrrogant stubborn coaches that lose their programs. The issue isn't that Ed asks for help, it's that he doesn't have the skills needed to lead a program or at least he hasn't proven it yet.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:00 pm to rmnldr
We hired a fricking d line coach with a shitty head coaching record and a binder to lead the LSU football program.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:01 pm to rmnldr
Everybody has a mentor. At least all successful people do. What a dumb thread title.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:01 pm to rmnldr
Look, there are alot of legitimate gripes with lsu, but this ain't one of them. Maybe there are no mentors for budding fry cooks like yourself, but successful people everywhere rely on the advice of mentors.
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:02 pm to rmnldr
Go kill yourself
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:03 pm to Dawgfan128
Some of the smartest people start with mentors, but there comes a point where the person evolves into the position where they no longer need that guidance day in and day out. This is called growth. If you go your whole professional career needing to be mentored then that shows you learn nothing from those interactions.
The fact that people don't understand this is mind boggling.
The fact that people don't understand this is mind boggling.
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:04 pm to CBandits82
He has ponamsky, but if that is not enough he can call his buddy lane kiffin after the co-eds go home or give Pete Carroll a call after his game.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:04 pm to Hulk Krogan
You took all that from Coach O respects Pete Jenkins?
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:05 pm to Dawgfan128
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How old are you? Clearly you aren't in any type of major corporation. Some of the smartest people in the world have mentors.
They hired a guy who is still being mentored on how to be a coach after already failing in the SEC. I have no problem with a guy having a mentor but having to rely on a guy to make any decisions is not good. O doesn't know how to run a college football program.
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Perhaps if Les had a mentor, he would still be a coach
He did. It was Bo Schembechler and he tried to be everything Bo was
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:06 pm to Hulk Krogan
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Some of the smartest people start with mentors, but there comes a point where the person evolves into the position where they no longer need that guidance day in and day out. This is called growth. If you go your whole professional career needing to be mentored then that shows you learn nothing from those interactions.
This is my point. The guy is a tenured coach who has already had one failed stop in the SEC and is still learning how to be a head coach
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:06 pm to rmnldr
I get paid to make decisions and I don't see anything wrong with getting advice as O has suggested he does.
Nothing at all. It isn't his getting advice that's the problem. The decisions he's making resulted in last night. That's the problem.
It's just 1 game. Let's see how the team works through it. Adversity can break you or adversity can make you stronger. I'm willing to let it unfold. I'm an adult, after all.
Nothing at all. It isn't his getting advice that's the problem. The decisions he's making resulted in last night. That's the problem.
It's just 1 game. Let's see how the team works through it. Adversity can break you or adversity can make you stronger. I'm willing to let it unfold. I'm an adult, after all.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:07 pm to KarlMalonesFlipPhone
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Look, there are alot of legitimate gripes with lsu, but this ain't one of them. Maybe there are no mentors for budding fry cooks like yourself, but successful people everywhere rely on the advice of mentors.
I'm sorry but I'm not hiring a CEO if he's asking his mentor how to do EVERYTHING. At some point you have to grow and be yourself and make your own decisions. Orgeron is not at that point.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:08 pm to rmnldr
I'm not defending O by posting this, because I don't believe that Yaw Yaw should have been let within a thousand miles of this program, but Proverbs 12:15 is something I live by:
"The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, But a wise man is he who listens to counsel."
"The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, But a wise man is he who listens to counsel."
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:08 pm to rmnldr
Is Jenkins O's Peveto?
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:09 pm to rmnldr
That's not sad, what's sad is he puts that relationship over the best interests of the program. A 75 y old mentor as a consultant is great, not as a full time coach
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:10 pm to Ace Midnight
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I get paid to make decisions and I don't see anything wrong with getting advice as O has suggested he does
Getting advice is fine but he has stated before something along the lines of that he asks Pete Jenkins first before making any decision.
That's not getting advice. That's not knowing what to do and not being confident in what you're doing.
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Nothing at all. It isn't his getting advice that's the problem. The decisions he's making resulted in last night. That's the problem.
Which likely aren't 100% his decisions.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:12 pm to TigerRagAndrew
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"The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, But a wise man is he who listens to counsel."
There's nothing wrong with getting second opinions and advice. The problem is the guy is getting paid to be a leader but can't make decisions on his own.
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