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re: It's not he scheme it's the philosophy
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:09 am to GetmorewithLes
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:09 am to GetmorewithLes
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The adjustment plays were called. Harris did not execute them. In my mind because we have not used them enough but don't say adjustments were not made... The second quarter should be evidence of that.
Those were not "adjustments". JD Moore got hurt, our asses were on the line, we were forced to change formation, and Harris is best throwing out of that formation. Thats what prompted the scoring. In the 2nd half Les found himself a replacement fullback, and LSU went back to what they had been doing.
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 3:13 am to Elrod
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Harris was brought along slowly and started to develop as a passer. He has enough ability to implement some other rather simple things (adjustments to what Bama was doing) to have been successful. Miles chose not to do so. He's a wacka-doodle!
Did you watch? Harris missed on a bunch of passes, at least 3 of them were within 7 yards of him. Bama D made him uneasy. You're a wacka doodle
Posted on 11/13/15 at 7:44 am to KG5989
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Don't tell me that the reason why a WR couldn't catch the ball is because the QB threw it too hard. T
Wow. Yeah a qb throwing a bullet on a 5 yard slant isn't on the qb. Anyone with a brain can see that Harris struggles with accuracy on his short throws. 90% of his throws this season the wr had had to make adjustments to the throw. That's inaccuracy.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 10:01 am to tiggerthetooth
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and LSU went back to what they had been doing.
What? our entire second half we tried running outside. I guess this needs to be said again. There is no game plan or scheme that cN be successful when the defensive line is 2 yards behind the los on every play. We tried throwing the ball. We tried zone read and was pretty successful until Harris got hurt.
This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 10:05 am
Posted on 11/13/15 at 10:02 am to Mayhawman
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LSU attempted 50% short range vs bama and Harris was not connecting.As for running spread, OL spacing wouldn't help what we witnessed. 3WR set didn't help either as Saban just went hat on hat and still got to QB.
Facts don't matter when talking to him.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 3:22 pm to boxcar willie
That offense may have worked when we had a dominant defense and could beat Bama by scoring nine points. Although it really didn't because then we lost 20 zip. As far As your 90%, I don't get your math. Last year we lost to Miss State, Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn And ND .We beat Florida, A & M and got lucky vs Ole Miss. Those are the only games that really mattered. That's 3 of 8 or 38%. We still have three to play this year and very well could wind up 4 of 8 or worse if we lose another bowl game. Last three bowl games we are 1 of 3 that's 33%. Get you head out of it. We need major changes on offense. If Cam Cameron is a great coach why did the Ravens fire him, why can't he develop a quarterback or an offense that can score points. without Leornard Fournette this year we might have two wins, maybe.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 5:36 pm to Val colvin
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That offense may have worked when we had a dominant defense and could beat Bama by scoring nine points. Although it really didn't because then we lost 20 zip. As far As your 90%, I don't get your math. Last year we lost to Miss State, Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn And ND .We beat Florida, A & M and got lucky vs Ole Miss. Those are the only games that really mattered. That's 3 of 8 or 38%. We still have three to play this year and very well could wind up 4 of 8 or worse if we lose another bowl game. Last three bowl games we are 1 of 3 that's 33%. Get you head out of it. We need major changes on offense. If Cam Cameron is a great coach why did the Ravens fire him, why can't he develop a quarterback or an offense that can score points. without Leornard Fournette this year we might have two wins, maybe.
reality doesn't matter when talking to Ricky4182. Dude likes to cherry pick stats dispite what everyones eyes are telling the world.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 5:50 pm to boxcar willie
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Dude likes to cherry pick stats dispite what everyones eyes are telling the world.
The irony is glorious. You pass your dumbass opinions off as fact and I use actual facts. Deal with it.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 6:22 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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The irony is glorious. You pass your dumbass opinions off as fact and I use actual facts. Deal with it.
my opinion is the same as the national media, the rest of the sec fans, the majority of our fans, and most former players. Anyone can cherry pick stats. Who gives a shite about that. If you think the offense we run gives us our best chance to beat the one team we have to get past each and every year to get to the SEC championship, then I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 6:28 pm to RedTigerRulz
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but has yet to find a consistent rhythm 8 GAMES INTO THE SEASON.
Seems to happen every year............
Posted on 11/13/15 at 7:34 pm to boxcar willie
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my opinion is the same as the national media, the rest of the sec fans, the majority of our fans, and most former players
bullshite. You have no idea what you're talking about. Your opinion that lsu's offense would be better without the iformation has never been said by anyone but ignorant rantards.
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Anyone can cherry pick stats. Who
It's not cherry picking stats.
Lsu is 9th in the country in offensive yards per play. That's not cherry picking. It's called reality.
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If you think the offense we run gives us our best chance to beat the one team we have to get past each and every year to get to the SEC championship, then I don't know what to tell you
It's laughable that you think you know our players strengths and weaknesses better than the coaches.
It's laughable that you think the scheme is what keeps our qbs from thriving( numerous qbs have put up decent numbers).
The scheme we run has given lsu it's best 10 year stretch ever. The same scheme that has done enough to be bama in 2011,2012 ( defense let us down), and 2014 ( defense gave up the lead).
You can SAY WHAT ever you want, but this scheme has lsu as 9th in the country in offensive yards per play. that's not cherry picking. It's a fact.
The only team that has slowed us down is Bama and you don't change your entire scheme to beat 1 damn team.
But hey I'mtalking to the guy that swore there was no such thing as an offset I formation.
There is nothing wrong with our scheme. Only the execution of the scheme. I'm sure you were glad that our offense didn't play well at bama so you could come here and post ignorant opinions on how we should change our entire scheme because of Bama. Before Saturday you were quite than a mouse because our offense was one of the most productive offenses in cfb AND STILL IS.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 7:44 pm to boxcar willie
...and the Rant speaks LOL
Posted on 11/13/15 at 7:53 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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and you don't change your entire scheme to beat 1 damn team.
You don't have to change it...Just add to it...AGAIN Miles doesn't trust Harris enough to open up the playbook more..... So tell me why Bama was so much better on offense against LSU Saturday???? It was the basic offensethey always run but they added some wrinkles to it....Offense is all about deception against he other team... Miles wanted to do what he thinks his team does best and that RUN THE BALL.. It sure didn't take Saban long to realize that that is what was coming.... Lsu tried NOTHING different...NOTHING.... Its called in game adjustments and Miles sucks at that.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:02 pm to dukke v
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So tell me why Bama was so much better on offense against LSU Saturday????
Because our defense was gassed from being on the field.
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Lsu tried NOTHING different...NOTHING..
You clearly didn't watch the game sober. We tried running outside. We tried rolling Harris out. We tried coming out throwing(int).
We threw the ball 19 times and has 20 rb run plays. We were trying the zone read ,but when Harris got hurt,we stopped.
Lsu didn't just keep running up the middle. The entire 2nd half, we tried running outside.
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called in game adjustments and Miles sucks at t
No in game adjustment can help when your oline is getting pushed 2 yards behind the los on every play.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:13 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Because our defense was gassed from being on the field.
Well sure they were Bama ran a lot of different plays than I have sen them run this year...
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You clearly didn't watch the game sober
Actually I did...
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Lsu didn't just keep running up the middle. The entire 2nd half, we tried running outside.
But from what formation?????
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No in game adjustment can help when your oline is getting pushed 2 yards behind the los on every play.
Oh I agree..LSU got destroyed sat night... But Its been the same way all year... LSU just has more talent than any other team in the SEC except Bama... You will see the same thing tomorrow and see better results...........
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:18 pm to dukke v
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Well sure they were Bama ran a lot of different plays than I have sen them run this year...
Because the playbook was limited with sims. The coaches see what plays are successful in practice and they implement them. If our offense could execute short passes we would call more passes. Miles has proven that, if he trusts a qb, we will throw the ball. Mett had the 2nd most attempts in the sec in 2013.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:59 pm to dukke v
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LSU just has more talent than any other team in the SEC except Bama...
OK but the talent gap between bama and lsu is bigger than the talent gap between lsu and Ole miss.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:53 pm to boxcar willie
The Scheme and Philosophy is not good. It takes all the pieces to work and the last time we had all the pieces was the 2007 team. Miles can not seem to put all the pieces together ever. Other schemes take all the pieces to work too but its not as hard to fill those roles. We still don't have a qb. That is on Miles. Harris is not good. He was a deer in the headlights the other night. Just like the Auburn game last year. I pulled for Harris and had high hopes but he is not ready. He has been shielded all year by the best running back in college football. The only thing he can do is throw hard and throw deep. He is inaccurate and throws with no finesse when needed. To be honest Jennings showed more promise by the end of last season than Harris has shown this year. Again, this all falls on Miles. Philosophy aside, I know damn good and well Cameron wanted to throw more. He knew just like I did Harris was mentally toast. Our team looks so small compared to Bama because Chavis recruited smaller guys. Were thin on defense because Chavis screwed us. That falls on the head coach. Same thing different year. The 2011 season was a fluke. TM7 won several games and saved games. We would have lost several games that year without a freak of nature. The same crappy offense though and that was 4 years ago!
Posted on 11/13/15 at 10:09 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 11/13/15 at 10:48 pm to stingercj7
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It takes all the pieces to work and the last time we had all the pieces was the 2007 team.
Our offense was great in 2013
And our 2011 offense was good.
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TM7 won several games and saved games
Holy shite youre stupid. We had 1 close game in 2011.
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To be honest Jennings showed more promise by the end of last season than Harris has shown this yea
Yeah if by more promise you mean Jennings had
Worse compl %
Worse passing yards per game
worse passing yards per attempt
Worse qb rating
FAR worse td/int ratio
I hate our ignorant fans.
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