re: It's not he scheme it's the philosophy

We tried running out if multiple wr sets. Seriously go rewatch the games. Our fans are idiots.

When they spread them out, Bama still only needed 7 to stop the run. No matter what LSU did, the oline got dominated.

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Tuscaloosa and come out victorious. Either because their typical style of play gives bama fits or because they are willing to put aside pride and step out of their comfort zone.

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It's not as easy to say that. Diff head coach means diff assistants, diff players. You can't just say plug coach x in and he would win.

West coast offense isn't far off from what cam runs.

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the philosophy of lining up in an I formation and estgablishing the run with some deep passes interspersed with it is what needs to change.

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The I formation has been unstoppable -- even mano a mano - except against Alabama.

I believe what you really mean is be flexible enough to make changes when the opposing D not only matches you man-to-man, but they are lined up like an arrow applying all the pressure in the center of the line -- making running up the gut almost impossible.

In 2007 Arkansas ran right and left towards the edges all game and destroyed our D.

The few times we ran misdirection, it was a positive play. The only good run Buga had all night was when he bounced to the edge as his secondary move. [He tried earlier in the night after he dealt with 3 or 4 defenders -- too late].

BAMA sold out on the gut and blitzed in obvious passing downs. LSU just continued to play right into that.

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The fans are idiots, but LSU is the only team in the West that hasn't had one 20-yard or more run against Bama or scored more than 17 against them in the last six games (including two overtime games). Come on man... Is our O-line that bad every year?

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The new excuse is that we need better players even though LSU leads the NFL in active players.

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I believe what you really mean is be flexible enough to make changes when the opposing D not only matches you man-to-man, but they are lined up like an arrow applying all the pressure in the center of the line -- making running up the gut almost impossible.

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not what I am saying at all. I would pretty much ditch the I formation as our base set for a shotgun formation and build our offense around it. I would stop with the whole idea of going 'mano a mano' in favor of taking what the defense gives us. Even against teams that we could just line up in the I and overpower I would take a longer bigger picture view and get our offense ready for the tougher teams that we can't or would struggle going 'mano a mano' against. We would beat those weakier teams anyway but we would just beat them the easier smarter way

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west coast doesn't generally line up in the I and just try to stretch the field vertically. But yeah it wouldn't be to big a transistion. Just add more west coast elements. A lot of it is already in our playbook.

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Exactly, wouldn't need an overhaul. West coast uses short passes to go around the defense when facing stacked box. Coryell uses deep passes to move the safeties out of the box.

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You're admitting Les is pig-headed

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never claimed he isn't

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if you can't trust a QB who has won all of his starts (up to the Bama game) and done exactly what has been asked of him, then you're never going to trust him.....which is one of Les's flaws.

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nah

Les trusted Mett in 2013 and we threw all over the place. Harris will get there.

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I mean...its great that is what you would do, but Miles isn't changing

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WE are changing. Miles/Cam are changing. Look at a lot of things we are doing this season. It's a learning process for Miles/Cam. Just take a look at the 2nd quarter of the Florida game, the whole S Carolina game, and the second half of the W Kentucky game. We were lined up in the shotgun a good bit, we threw some underneath routes, even attempted passes to the TE's. Used some misdirection on our run plays, think we even had a man in motion a time or two, ran the read option with Harris. Called run plays to Harris. Jet sweep. All things we didn't do much of last season if at all (other than starting to do some of those things agains aTm). OUr offense has been growing and developing at points this season. Just the pace is very slow and I don't know how far with it Cam/Miles will go (probably not very)

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You might as well just accept that

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I can't accept that MIles/Cam are not intelligent people. Miles is one of the top coaches in the country and at some point he is going to realize what is holding his team back.

You must be one of those WWE wrestling fans...unless its a chokehold it don't count...I see said the blind man.