re: Is this all Alleva or does it go deeper?

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California State University, Long Beach and of Murray State University.

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Do any of those schools have football programs?

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Do any of those schools have football programs?

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Thank you. Guy just doesn't get it. Needs to go somewhere else.

None of it is Alleva.

It really makes more sense that it was Alexander that screwed this up. He could go down in LSU history as the worst president we've ever had.

Of course he has a contract to 2020.

LSU could be added to his growing list of schools that he screwed up.

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idn't Spurrier really want the LSU job after Bill Arnsparger left in 1986/87 but politics got involved and that's how Mike Archer got promoted to HC?

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According to Spurrier that's true. What happened after the 1986 season is that the players and key boosters wanted to maintain continuity on a team that was really stacked talent wise. On offense you had Hodson(Guidry), H. Williams, Wendell Davis as well as an offensive line that was full of All Americans like Albergamo, Andolsek and Norwood and Rodrigue. Defensively the LB's were key with D. Phillips Sancho, Hill, Carrier and Rehage etc.

Archer was supposed to be a project and given the talent level he inherited , it was thought that all he would have to do is coach the defense which he had done a pretty good job of up to that point

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Look, Alleva doesn't look good, but nothing happens in a vacuum. I suspect there is more to this than just Alleva. He is not the only with a say on matters such as this.

LSU has screwed up on finding and retaining coaches that pre dates Alleva. Mark Emret was the only one who did this right. I think Bob Broadhead ran into shenanigans in his time at LSU. That is not to say that he was pure, but it us in LSU's nature to make a mockery of this process.

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IMO this is all very simple and easily explainable.

This is how I THINK it happened. The powers to be got a lot pressure from big money boosters about how the last few seasons have played out and convinced them immediate change was needed.

I think conversations were had with Sexton about Fisher and I think he told them he would listen to any offer LSU was willing to make. IF LSU was able to lock up Fisher then the firing of Miles would have been tolerated by the fan base and the media.

Because of Miles success at LSU he deserved another year to turn things around out of respect, UNLESS they could replace him with a NC caliber coach like Jimbo.

When Jimbo said no thank you.....the powers to be said "if we fire Miles and replace him with a coordinator we will look like fools" so they back peddled on the decision.

I think the silver lining of this is NOW Miles knows he does not have job security and he will either adapt or go down in flames. My heart hopes he adapts but my head tells me he will not change.

This was a few rungs higher. His downfall IMHO was the silence......

LSU football just took a backseat to academic financial politics, and that is fricking unacceptable and inappropriate given the financial independence of academics and athletics.

F King has to be removed. I will not rest until he is gone. I'm fuming mad at Alexander, as all LSU football fans should be. He just botched a key decision regarding the state's flagship football program, and he deserves to pay the price. Does he have the authority to make that decision? Of course, and with that responsibility he also gets to face the consequences of his actions.

Yes and no. In the end he BOS has to approve all hires and for that matter key firings. It used to be back in the day people used to think Jack Andonie was the power and to a lesser extent it did, but if he did not have the backing of Dr. Charles Cusimano it usually did not fly. That's how we got Gerry DiNardo over Pat Sullivan back in the mid 1990's.

For those that remember after Hallman was booted, there was a search and terms had been reached with Sullivan who was ten coach at TCU that had been negotiated by Joe Dean and Sullivan was slated to be announced as the new coach until Cusimano said no way and got a majority of the board to side with him. As it turned out DiNardo became coach....turned out in hindsight not be the worst decision. Sullivan was fired two years later from TCU and the best he could get was UAB after that and flamed out there. DiNardo was a pretty good coach except for his ego as it applied with his friend Tepper and it destroyed him at LSU.

LSU has a history of screwing up coaching hires, but in this case, personally, I think that paying for Fisher would have been a mistake. I think initially, Fisher would only be marginally better, at best . After the same amount of time you probably would get the same results as Miles and I think that maybe if Saban would have stayed you might have only gotten maybe 1 more NC out of him.

Alabama is a different animal when it comes to football coaches and football. They will break the bank for football because that's all they really care about and even they get it wrong periodically...see Ray Perkins, Mike Dubose, Mike Price, Mike Shula, Dennis Franchione. Hell, Stallings only won one NC and he was hired after a they fired a successful coach in Bill Curry and he won it with Curry's recruits.