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Is Jordan Jefferson the answer?

Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:19 am
Posted by brownjuco
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2006
141 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:19 am
Everyone who thinks that "lace and Gary" are holding Jordan back is crazy. The pass routes that are being ran are the same routes that were run a year ago. The difference is Jefferson is much more hesitant to throw the ball than Jarrett Lee was. Let me take that back...he's downright scared to throw a pick, and judging from his words and actions I think everyone would agree with me. I do understand his mindset, but lets be honest and say that in order to improve, he will have to fail...and I don't mean taking sacks. He is not failing the way that he needs to fail in order to progress as a quarterback. Last year vs. Florida Jarrett Lee was actually respectable...on the road with a bad defense. I'm not saying that I think Jarrett Lee is a better quarterback, but I do believe that he has improved...geez, after last year it would be impossible for him not to statistically. Fact of the matter is that Jarrett Lee kept us in the game a year ago into the 3rd quarter when the defense was downright disgusting. I think we will continue to see a trend of LSU struggling on offense and yards gained as long a jefferson is quarterback. However, he does have a nack of just doing enough and not hurting us too much and allowing our defense and special teams to win games...which has happened so far. It does get sometimes hard to watch though, and he'll never be a consistent passing threat down the field. On the other hand, Lee has exibited flashes of being a great quarterback someday, even though he has also been equally as bad at times. I definately think the ceiling is higher for Jarrett Lee to be better when it's all said and done. Nonetheless, the difference in Jefferson and Lee is certainly not reflected in the playing time so far this year.

10/10/09 Jordan Jefferson (home game after 6 starts ) - 11/17 96 yards 0 TD 1 int.
Last year vs. Florida, Jarrett Lee(on the road after 2 starts) - 23/36 203 yards 2 TD 2 Int.

Come on People...Brett Favre throws tons of picks...the dude was a freshman...and it's not his fault that our offense can't tackle.
Posted by Bengal55
Kingwood, TX
Member since Oct 2009
315 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:20 am to
right now he's the question.

Posted by LSUownsSEC
OutOfTheArea
Member since May 2008
3178 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:21 am to
Amen and +1000 brownjuco
Posted by Sonny Koufax
Member since Aug 2006
1678 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:22 am to
Yes...if the question is "What's wrong with the LSU offense?"
Posted by HONDEAUX
Out Yonder
Member since Sep 2009
592 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:22 am to
Too early to tell if JJ is the deal or not. Right now, he has the deer in the headlights program working against him. He takes too long and doesn't seem to see the field of receivers. He either needs to develop further, or he's reached his apex - and, it's not good enough.

We need a QB with a quick drop and release with this offensive line. I don't know if Lee or Shepard are the answer, but we will never know unless they get a chance to toss a few.
Posted by Run DMC
somewhere in Louisiana it's tricky
Member since Jan 2007
5746 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:23 am to
Jordan Jefferson=Not the answer
Posted by lsudiva2010
2014 Class B BBall Champions
Member since Jan 2008
19302 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:23 am to
I hate confusing a team and throwing them all for a loop, but here's the way I see it:

With two weeks to prepare, the OL and QB positions MUST show a good bit of improvement. If not, changes need to be made at both.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29284 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:23 am to
Brings to mind an old adage.....if you haven't failed at something at least once then you ain't trying
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:25 am to
There are bigger problems then just Jefferson. We have no pass protection, we have no running game, and the playcalling is terrible. You think if we just put Lee in, the offense will magically start scoring points? We need to run Shepard more, he has been our most consistent runner this year, the few times he's gotten the ball.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10287 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:27 am to
LSU should be in a better position at QB! Coaches are to blame for not having a QB good enough or ready enough to play in the SEC.


That is the bottom line both LSU QB's are below average at best.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12219 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:27 am to
Hatch= not the answer;
Lee= not the answer;
Jefferson=not the answer.
Atleast the last two are young and showed remarkably little progression, especially in footwork, reading defenses, not staring down the receivers, etc.One can argue they actually digressed.
Befroe thousands boo Jefferson off the field like the did with Lee and render HIM a basket case, should we ask a question of two about coaching of the QB's?
Posted by Tomm
Member since Aug 2009
1298 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:28 am to
OL is the problem as knowledgeable LSU fans recognize. Just like the sports writers know it and write it, Miles knows it and says, and even the offensive players like Hebert and Scott say the blocking isn't good enough. 'nuff said!
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33960 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:28 am to
quote:

There are bigger problems then just Jefferson.
while the other problems are pretty bad, none are worse than JJ's inability to escape a pass rush or his inabiulity to check down
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10287 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:30 am to
Then blame Miles for not having recruited or coached the Oline good enough.
Posted by rogerlsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
966 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:30 am to
quote:

You think if we just put Lee in, the offense will magically start scoring points?

it isn't magic. we scored lots last year because we took chances down the field. the defenses had to respect it, and it helps everything else. you can't be timid and play qb in this league
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:30 am to
quote:

in order to improve, he will have to fail

That's reality. But it's also reality that 93,000 fans wanted to guillotine Jarret Lee during the 2008 season. If an LSU QB isn't Heisman caliber after his first four or five games, he's finished.
Posted by coz
Dallas
Member since Oct 2009
9 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:31 am to
For the record JJ kept us in the game until the 4th quarter this year.

Clearly he was less than good, but my money is still on JJ...for now.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10287 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:32 am to
quote:

For the record JJ kept us in the game until the 4th quarter this year.




The defense kept us in the game not JJ... Tell me one thing JJ did to help us win Saturday...
Posted by ROUSTER
Member since Sep 2003
6841 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:34 am to
Well, if JJ continues to struggle. IMO, the coaches won't have a choice. I was amazed last year that JL made it as long as he did until he cracked. I don't think JJ is as thick skinned as JL. If the crowd turns against JJ, I think he will melt before your eyes.

I'd love to see a 2 QB system right now. Both QB's are young and both bring something different to the offense. Ride the hot hand and get both experience while doing so.
Posted by coz
Dallas
Member since Oct 2009
9 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:34 am to
It's more what he didn't do...
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