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Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:47 pm to skullhawk
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He hasn't played well since he's been here. I haven't seen anything from him that would make me believe he's anywhere close to playing at Jones' level.
What exactly did you see from Jones before 2015? He didn't start a single game and only had 65 total tackles going into his senior year. He was a solid special teams player though, and then he blew up as a senior. Riley has followed the same exact path and is a very similar size and type of player.
I swear, some of you people just flat make shite up.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:03 pm to RB10
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What exactly did you see from Jones before 2015? He didn't start a single game and only had 65 total tackles going into his senior year. He was a solid special teams player though, and then he blew up as a senior. Riley has followed the same exact path and is a very similar size and type of player.
I swear, some of you people just flat make shite up.
Did I say anything about Jones pre 2015? What I've seen from Riley so far in his career is what I based my statement on. He overruns plays or lets himself get washed out way too much for me. Maybe with increased snaps that improves but I doubt it. The Jones cases are very rare at the sec level.
If Riley is drafted in the second round in the 2017 draft like Jones, ill start a thread in your honor.
Your post reminds me of the pro Welter crap on the board pre 2014 season.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:08 pm to skullhawk
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Did I say anything about Jones pre 2015? What I've seen from Riley so far in his career is what I based my statement on. He overruns plays or lets himself get washed out way too much for me. Maybe with increased snaps that improves but I doubt it.
You've garnered all of this from his very limited playing time? Man, I wonder why Aranda is so high on him then? Obviously, they need to hire you and your acute observational skills to help them realize Riley just isn't very good.
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The Jones cases are very rare at the sec level.
My comment about making shite up applies here.
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If Riley is drafted in the second round in the 2017 draft like Jones, ill start a thread in your honor.
No need. Just don't post stupid shite.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:21 pm to RB10
Here's Aranda's only published quote on Riley
Stop posting stupid shite
When your only argument is he's a senior who has hardly seen the field and he weighs the same as Deion Jones, I have a hard time agreeing with you.
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ARANDA: "I'm thankful Beckwith came back. He provides leadership in that room and accountability for the other guys in terms of how things are done. I was meeting with Donnie Alexander and I have some high expectations for him. He's putting on some weight. I like his quickness and ability to rush the passer. He can cover backs out of the backfield. He's attacking that spot. We are looking at Devin White. There's an opportunity for him there. He brings explosiveness and physicality there. He's very intelligent. It's been fun to be around him these last couple of weeks. There's some depth there. There's some other things we can do. When the nickel comes on the field, Duke Riley can be an inside guy as well. We've got the players, we've just got to put them in the right spots.
Stop posting stupid shite
When your only argument is he's a senior who has hardly seen the field and he weighs the same as Deion Jones, I have a hard time agreeing with you.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:23 pm to skullhawk
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Stop posting stupid shite
When your only argument is he's who has hardly seen the field and he weighs the same as Deion Jones, I have a hard time agreeing with you.
Who do you see starting then? Please, please don't say Devin White.
When you can tell me the last freshman LB to have more than 30 total tackles at LSU you will see my actual argument.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:27 pm to RB10
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Who do you see starting then? Please, please don't say Devin White.
Starting game 1 and being a difference maker are two different things. The 2016 team's LB depth was a known problem last year.
It's funny you mention White. The best RB in the state last year is playing defense because the LB situation is that bad.
Like I said with Welter pre 2014, I hope Riley is an all sec guy and proves me flat wrong.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:28 pm to skullhawk
So, you have nothing other than "Riley sucks" to back up your opinion.
Nice.
Nice.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:29 pm to skullhawk
So White isn't playing LB because he has Fournette, Guice and Williams ahead of him, and he wants to get on the field quicker?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:38 pm to RB10
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So, you have nothing other than "Riley sucks" to back up your opinion. Nice.
No. I based it on the limited playing time he's had. He wasn't good in those moments. Why are you so hung up on this?
Do you watch the games? He's had snaps. He's not a total unknown like a true frosh coming in.
You on the other hand are solely relying on the fact that he weighs the same as Deion jones and we haven't seen him enough to know how good he is. I pointed out the flawed logic there. The vast majority of great players don't wait until their senior year to make an impact.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:41 pm to BayouBengals18
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So White isn't playing LB because he has Fournette, Guice and Williams ahead of him, and he wants to get on the field quicker?
Sure that's part of it. Didn't say it wasn't. LB depth has just as much to do with it.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:43 pm to skullhawk
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No. I based it on the limited playing time he's had. He wasn't good in those moments. Why are you so hung up on this?
Do you watch the games? He's had snaps. He's not a total unknown like a true frosh coming in.
Like I said, you're a real savant if you can definitively say a player is good or not based on the very limited snaps he played. You should send in your resume.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:54 pm to RB10
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Like I said, you're a real savant if you can definitively say a player is good or not based on the very limited snaps he played. You should send in your resume.
Or I could just blindly pump sunshine like you?
Maybe you could share some of your private conversations with Aranda. You know, since you yourself said he's so high on Riley. His only published quote mentions him as an afterthought so you must know more than me.
Limited playing time + didn't perform well during that limited action. I'm not sure why you're having such a hard time with that logic. It's just my opinion.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:58 pm to skullhawk
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Or I could just blindly pump sunshine like you?
Well, this is the first time I've ever been accused of that.
I guess not shitting on everything LSU football related makes you a "sunshine pumper"? Sorry I'm not a completely miserable asshat.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:00 pm to skullhawk
He's blindly pumping sunshine, and you're blindly pumping a kid that hasn't played a down of college football yet. You're even.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:01 pm to RB10
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I guess not shitting on everything LSU football related makes you a "sunshine pumper"? Sorry I'm not a completely miserable asshat.
You're all over the place.
I'm the sunshine pumper in my group of friends. I just don't think Riley is an impact player at this level. I hope I'm wrong. Good day, sir.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:02 pm to BayouBengals18
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He's blindly pumping sunshine, and you're blindly pumping a kid that hasn't played a down of college football yet. You're even.
Didn't mention Devin White until his name was brought up. Never said anything about his playing time or projected performance. The reading comprehension some of you idiots have is alarming.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:03 pm to skullhawk
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You're all over the place.
I'm all over the place for thinking one of LSU's starting LBs is going to have similar numbers to his predecessor whom he is very comparable to?
Right.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:04 pm to skullhawk
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Didn't mention Devin White until his name was brought up. Never said anything about his playing time or projected performance. The reading comprehension some of you idiots have is alarming.
Who do you think is going to start then? The production has to come from somewhere....
ETA: I mean, do you have anyone? It's not like there are a lot of choices. It's either Riley, Donnie Alexander, a converted safety or someone who hasn't recorded a stat for LSU yet.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:11 pm to RB10
Skullhawk and RB10, I think you're both wrong.
I think Duke Riley has shown that he can play at the SEC level, but he has no where near the talent of Debo Jones.
I saw Debo play one game in high school. It was a playoff game, and I went home and told my son, who was a classmate of Debo's at Jesuit, that Debo would play in the NFL. That was one of the best linebackers I've ever seen. He could cover, he could run, and he could pop. What took him four years to get on the field? I'll never know.
But Riley will play, and will play well this year.
I think Duke Riley has shown that he can play at the SEC level, but he has no where near the talent of Debo Jones.
I saw Debo play one game in high school. It was a playoff game, and I went home and told my son, who was a classmate of Debo's at Jesuit, that Debo would play in the NFL. That was one of the best linebackers I've ever seen. He could cover, he could run, and he could pop. What took him four years to get on the field? I'll never know.
But Riley will play, and will play well this year.
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