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Is Cam worth keeping to keep Franks and other recruits?

Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:54 am
Posted by Vanilla Ice
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:54 am
The biggest reason I'm pissed with Miles is he's letting this shite show happen with the potential GOAT recruiting class incoming.

If Cam goes, so does Franks. I'm worried about some other recruits too.

Should we keep Cam for next year, to see if Harris continues to improve and while we have Fournette? One last year for a title run and to keep the recruits?

Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36299 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:59 am to
regardless of who we recruit at quarterback, the talent will be squandered
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29115 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:59 am to
frick no. Harris is a 4-year guy anyways.

also who else on our recruiting class would leave? Campbell will stick as long as Grimes is around. We're the only team to stick with Dee Anderson with his off the field antics, so I doubt he bails. Coxie is a sleeper.


This class is basically 85% defense (as it should be), so it'd only be a cluster frick if Steele and O left.
Posted by LSUgriffin0811
Prairieville
Member since Apr 2013
797 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:01 am to
Regardless LSU will be middle of the pack sec team until Les is gone. We can get the best QB in the nation every year and the #1 recruiting class every year and still lose 3-4 games a year. Les continues to hire his friends instead of good football coaches. But to answer your question. Does it really matter? Franks will be just like Harris, put in bad situations and zero coaching. So if we lose franks because of Cameron so be it.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 2:10 am to
Franks is likely gone anyway.
Posted by Vanilla Ice
2018 Saints Talk Poster of the Year
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 3:31 am to
Go fap to Elbert, ya douche
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10870 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 5:49 am to
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Franks is likely gone anyway.
We'll bet anybody here that he winds up at Florida State or Florida.

No Franks and no Patterson.

No Patterson because Miles let his brother walk away to be the Assistant Director of Recruiting at Ole Miss. Yes, that's right. Sean Patterson is not even on the coaching staff for the Black Bears! He's in the Recruiting Department.

So, we lose the number one QB recruit in the country because Miles can't find a spot for his brother on the Staff at LSU.

Send Ensminger to Admins and let him coach TE's.

Still not too late to fix the problem.

Send BDP packing (That's a no brainer) and hire Sean to come coach Special Teams. Since we all know that Baby Patterson wants to stay with Big Bro, he'll most likely change his mind yet again and come to LSU.

Patterson to LSU. Franks to UF/FSU. Problem solved.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 5:50 am to
Cam is worth keeping because he's a good coordinator with a history of developing great QBs

He was criticized in Baltimore for passing too much and not getting the ball to Rice more. Does that seem like the same issue here?
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32624 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 6:15 am to
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Cam is worth keeping because he's a good coordinator with a history of developing great QBs
Philip Rivers, Drew Brees and Joe Flacco all improved after he left.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12219 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 6:40 am to
I've heard these same arguments for keeping BDP.
Except that one could easily image BDP posting some of those arguments..
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9355 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:13 am to
It's unfortunate that a lot of people are once again pretending that our next big QB recruit, Franks, is the next Tom Brady. Harris was as good of a high school prospect, and you can't say LSU could not have lived without him. Franks is a 4 star for a reason and he's not even close to be being so important that we have to revolve the world around him, like making staff decisions.

Just like JJ, Jennings, and Harris, Franks is overhyped, not the savior, and very replaceable.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:20 am to
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Philip Rivers, Drew Brees and Joe Flacco all improved after he left.


First, this shows a lack of understanding of the nfl. The qb success rate is very, very poor and he's hit on 3 and now maybe 4 franchise qbs. Their early years of development make or break them.

Also, not really true, but i would expect young QBs to play better with more experience. Drew credits him with his development.

Drew's best year in SD and one of the best offenses in nfl history at the time occurred under him. He had a 104.8 QB rating (3rd best of his career) with 27 TDs and 7 ints in 2005

Flacco had a 93.6, 80.9, and 87.7 passer rating cam's last 3 years. 73.1 the next year...

Rivers was under him for 2 semi seasons of play. 92 QB rating (22/9), then 82.4 (21/15) the year after he left
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 9:43 am
Posted by vjm41
Lake Charles, La
Member since Jan 2008
910 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:22 am to
AT LSU, OC's come and go but nothing changes!!!! SO IF U WANT A CHANGE keep CAM and get rid of Miles or it will be the same ol shite/// The poster that printed that Cam was fired cause he threw to much RB's ,TE's, ECT. is CORRECT
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:25 am to
quote:

regardless of who we recruit at quarterback, the talent will be squandered
This is probably true, but it's still better to have the best talent we can get.

It's best for Franks college career that he go to UF or FSU, but it may be best for his NFL career if he gets coached by Cam. Cam is not the problem. Everyone blaming Cam is absolutely delusional. How after all these years and coordinators can you people not understand it is Les Miles. His OC's at OSU all said the same stuff before Les ever made it to Baton Rouge.
Posted by LSUFAN2
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2011
2431 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:26 am to
Cam or no cam Frank's will not sign with LSU.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22233 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:28 am to
quote:

Is Cam worth keeping to keep Franks and other recruits?
This just in: Nobody - and I mean nobody - is bigger than the game.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
30865 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:31 am to
quote:

Franks is likely gone anyway.
Posted by BCS Statmaster
Member since Jan 2007
1552 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:34 am to
quote:

Is Cam worth scapegoating
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:35 am to
You sound like a over reacting little bitty 20 year old know it all. Continue losing 3-4? Lol. Check the records little kid. Also...I lol when I see all blame on the coaches and zero on players.. Lol. Sounds like you are highly intelligent.
Posted by That LSU Guy
The beach
Member since Jul 2008
11396 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:37 am to
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We can get the best QB in the nation every year and the #1 recruiting class every year and still lose 3-4 games a year.
ummm, no.
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