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In all seriousness, what's the deal with LSU and it's QB's?
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:02 pm
Is it scheme?
Pro style offense too complicated and requires too much precision of ball location for young QB's to execute?
Missed evaluation in the recruiting process?
Bad timing of players leaving the program?
Play calling?
Why do our guys struggle so bad?
My own two cents is we try to force a HS QB who has been playing in shot gun for 3 or 4 years is suddenly put under center where they are not comfortable?
It's the biggest mystery in college football... LSU has all the pieces but QB?
what the heck?
Pro style offense too complicated and requires too much precision of ball location for young QB's to execute?
Missed evaluation in the recruiting process?
Bad timing of players leaving the program?
Play calling?
Why do our guys struggle so bad?
My own two cents is we try to force a HS QB who has been playing in shot gun for 3 or 4 years is suddenly put under center where they are not comfortable?
It's the biggest mystery in college football... LSU has all the pieces but QB?
what the heck?
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:03 pm to ApexTiger
It's been said before....u just said it....square peg round hole.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:05 pm to ApexTiger
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Missed evaluation in the recruiting process?
This
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:05 pm to ApexTiger
It's coaching, a philosophy, lack of confidence and trust given to the qb
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:05 pm to ApexTiger
quote:You almost make it sound like LSU should run a spread HUNH offense with the QBs y'all have.
My own two cents is we try to force a HS QB who has been playing in shot gun for 3 or 4 years is suddenly put under center where they are not comfortable?
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:09 pm to damnstrongfan
Recruiting read option/ spread QBs for a pro style offense , if you recruit that type of QB adjust your offense to fit . Look at the OCd that have been hired they all are spread type coaches , we have to change with the times
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:10 pm to ApexTiger
quote:
Why do our guys struggle so bad?
My own two cents is we try to force a HS QB who has been playing in shot gun for 3 or 4 years is suddenly put under center where they are not comfortable?
Seriously? It can only be Dumb & Dumber! How else can you allow an offense to be so stale and pathetic QB play? You have to blame Miles & Cam. And I better not hear another season of Miles saying this is the best OL he ever had- they never play up to their potential, and now Collins is gone.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:10 pm to ApexTiger
I think you hit all of the issues. To me, it is Cam's inability to adjust to the talent he has. Our offense was great with Mett, Landry, ODB and Hill. We had all the pieces to run Cam's offense.
Now with the lack of QB talent (due to recruiting, development, whatever)we don't seem to call plays that would give the QB a chance to be successful. Why did we not throw tot he TE until the bowl game? Why do we have long developing routes that ask the QB to make too many reads? Keep it simple. Find a way for the QB to have some success/confidence. Basically, adjust the scheme for the talent you have, but you cannot go so conservative that the only pass attempts the QB has is on 3rd and long (usually ends up with a bad comp. percentage).
But it is all interconnected...Recruit pro style QBs (like Mett) and not mobile spread QBs if you are going to run a pro style offense...and you can avoid having to adjust the offense.
Now with the lack of QB talent (due to recruiting, development, whatever)we don't seem to call plays that would give the QB a chance to be successful. Why did we not throw tot he TE until the bowl game? Why do we have long developing routes that ask the QB to make too many reads? Keep it simple. Find a way for the QB to have some success/confidence. Basically, adjust the scheme for the talent you have, but you cannot go so conservative that the only pass attempts the QB has is on 3rd and long (usually ends up with a bad comp. percentage).
But it is all interconnected...Recruit pro style QBs (like Mett) and not mobile spread QBs if you are going to run a pro style offense...and you can avoid having to adjust the offense.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:12 pm to ApexTiger
Ask yourself this, if this is our 12-year lineup with QBs, do you think we have even 1 anemic year?
2005: JaMarcus Russell
2006: JaMarcus Russell
2007: Matt Flynn
2008: Ryan Perilloux
2009: Ryan Perriloux
2010: Jarrett Lee/Jordan Jefferson
2011: Zach Lee
2012: Zach Lee
2013: Zach Mettenberger
2014: Gunner Kiel
2015: Gunner Kiel
2016: Brandon Harris
2005: JaMarcus Russell
2006: JaMarcus Russell
2007: Matt Flynn
2008: Ryan Perilloux
2009: Ryan Perriloux
2010: Jarrett Lee/Jordan Jefferson
2011: Zach Lee
2012: Zach Lee
2013: Zach Mettenberger
2014: Gunner Kiel
2015: Gunner Kiel
2016: Brandon Harris
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:15 pm to chilge1
We have had some terrible luck keeping the good ones 
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:15 pm to UAFanFromNOLA
quote:
You almost make it sound like LSU should run a spread HUNH offense with the QBs y'all have.
frick it anything's better than the bullshite we've been putting up with.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:17 pm to ApexTiger
Interesting question and one that, so far as my memory serves me, hasn't been raised. I doubt anyone on the board has any strong opinions on the matter one way or the other, though.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:17 pm to CFFO
quote:
adjust the scheme for the talent you have
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:18 pm to ApexTiger
Damn ApexTiger for over 31k posts you sure are late to this party!!! 
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:30 pm to ApexTiger
Miles uses the QB that can only hand off the ball as long as Cameron thinks QB is not ready for his pro style scheme.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:37 pm to ApexTiger
Periloux leaving at a couple complete misses after.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:48 pm to ApexTiger
It's the coaches responsibility ultimately to make it all work. Simple.
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:53 pm to ApexTiger
quote:
what's the deal with LSU and it's QB's?
Pretty simple, actually. LSU recruits great running backs and linemen, and there's no secret about that. Why would a 5-star QB recruit want to share the spotlight?
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:54 pm to ApexTiger
Ahhh please shut the hell up you whiny bitch
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:55 pm to Dudebro2
quote:
Damn ApexTiger for over 31k posts you sure are late to this party!!!
No, I just decided to start my own thread
because I want it fixed!
This is therapy...Sometimes we need to complain about the problems that don't have easy / quick fixes.
But I would like Cam or Miles to explain it to us.
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