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re: If Ole Miss hires Miles, who will have the better head coach?

Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:21 am to
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:21 am to
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Kedwards1


Always fascinated with peoples age and insults, instead of facts and logic. Typical O supporter.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:21 am to
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And when O got the OM job, Cutcliffe had won a division co-championship(I know) in 2003, and O still went 3-21 in conference over 3 years.


It doesn't matter you moonbat, Coach Cutcliffe was fired specifically because of his piss poor recruiting. Indeed, that's what the Athletic Department specifically cited as the main reason he was fired.

Meanwhile, Saban had not only won a National Championship in 2003, but he also already had two National Championship teams recruited and stockpiled in the house when Miles took over, and I say two National Championship teams recruited and stockpiled in the house because if Miles wasn't such a mediocre coach we would have won a National Championship in 2006, as that 2006 team was better than the 2007 team. Like I said, had we another coach instead of Les Miles such as Coach O, during the years Miles was here, we would have won easily two more National Championships and probably more
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:24 am to
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had we another coach instead of Les Miles such as Coach O, during the years Miles was here, we would have won easily two more National Championships and probably more


O is still under .500, even with his interim stints. Les has the best winning % of any LSU coach ever, and did it over 11 years, yet Les is the mediocre coach and O would've won us multiple championships. You're so fricking delusional it's sad.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:26 am to
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Plus, in 2007, O was in his 3rd year of his fabulous recroots. How was that his worst year?


Exactly. O wasn't given a 4th year because the team got worse in his 3rd year. He's spouting bullshite without even knowing what really went on at OM.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15836 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:33 am to
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Always fascinated with peoples age and insults, instead of facts and logic. Typical O supporter

It's rather uncanny how easily they all lose their minds and start name-calling.

But the rest of us are the immature children.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28497 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:51 am to
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Space Cowboy


If you missed it on the last page, you really need to know this....

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Except, go look at the recruiting rankings for OM for each of the 3. Os classes were on par with the 'horrible' cutcliffe, and worse than Nutt. 


Cutcliffe and Os recruiting rankings were almost identical...over a 3 year period. Nutt and freeze were substantially better than O. But we'll ignore freeze at this point, for good measure.

So nutt comes in with basically the same talent that O received, and performs much better. Facts are Interesting.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:33 am to
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I'll disagree with you about "LSU couldn't have been more loaded" BS. Saban went 9-3 in 2004 and was incredibly lucky not to lose to Oregon State to open the 2004 season. The 7-5 Oregon State Beavers lost that game 22-21 because their kicker missed 3 extra points.



It couldn’t be more obvious that you are wrong Einstein. You said it yourself, only 13 lousy players in 2005 thanks to Miles. Of course, we had a rebuilding year in 2004 and also in 2005, after losing so many players in 2003, although in 2005 we never should have lost that game at home to Tennessee especially with a 21-point lead at half time. Say what you want, but that was Miles’ fault.

Meanwhile, like you said the 2005 recruiting class was piss poor, but it didn’t matter because Nick Saban had already recruited two National Championship teams before he left for Miami. Indeed, when Les Miles took over at LSU, courtesy of Nick Saban, there were already two National Championship teams recruited for Les Miles stockpiled in the house. Now, of course, Miles only won one of them and then had to get very lucky to get that one, as he lost two easy games we should never have lost. But that’s typical Les Miles for you.

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114 wins, 34 losses in 11+ years proves you're wrong.



At one of the best college football programs in the country. Had Miles been competent, he would have won National Championship in 2006 and 2007 with Saban’s players. Meanwhile, we wouldn’t have had to get lucky to back our way into the National Championship game in 2007 either, and there is no legitimate excuse for losing the National Championship in 2011 either, as that one was because of Miles famous uncreative piss poor ultra conservative offense.

Furthermore, the reason recruiting was so good during those years wasn’t because Miles was a great coach, great recruiter, and great salesman for the university, hell that moron could barely string two sentences together and still can’t to this day. In fact, he doesn’t even know the meaning of what the word desire means. As far as he is concerned, it doesn’t even exist in the English language. Instead, everything is “want” with him like he is just a toddler learning how to speak in broken English. Indeed, those recruits came to LSU because they wanted to play for LSU, and most of them couldn’t even understand a single word of what that moron was trying to say. It didn’t matter though, because it didn’t make any sense in any event.

Anyway, Miles didn’t make LSU, LSU made Miles. Indeed, he always lost games we never should have lost because of his stupid uncreative and very ultra conservative offense and ultra conservative play calling and because of his piss poor decision making and game management skills. Remember that Ole Miss game he gave away because he doesn’t know how to manage a damn clock and still doesn’t to this day. In fact, that’s when he should have been fired.

Moreover, even when we won games, it was most of the time much more of a struggle than it should have been, as Miles had a penchant for making easy games very difficult and much harder than it should have been. Furthermore, during those Miles’ years, LSU was almost painful to watch. I used to dread watching those games. Indeed, I think that’s why the rant today is so unhinged. They watched too damn many Les Miles football games and ended up blowing a damn gasket.

In fact, had we had someone else other than Les Miles as head coach during those 11 years, someone like Ed Orgeron instead, I believe we would have won at least two more National Championships and probably more.

In any event, it’s obvious why Miles can’t get another coaching job today, as no one will touch that ignoramus with a 10-foot pole even though he has one of the greatest records in college football of all time. It’s because everyone knows that he is a very mediocre coach and that his excellent record was because LSU made Miles, not the other way around. Most people aren’t dumb. Indeed, considering Miles excellent record, Miles should be like Chip Kelly today. Instead, he is like the plague. Nobody in their right mind wants him. Meanwhile, I want what you are smoking.

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The 90s prove you're wrong.


Nobody was talking about the 90s you Einstein. Damn!
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28497 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:45 am to
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At one of the best college football programs in the country.


Said texas, usc, Notre dame, miami, Ohio 1st (prior to urban) and so on and so on.

Winning 80% of your games is hard as hell, no matter what school you're at. There are literally example after example of schools more prestigious than LSU falling off the map because of a poor head coach hire.

But keep making stuff up.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15836 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:46 am to
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In fact, had we had someone else other than Les Miles as head coach during those 11 years, someone like Ed Orgeron instead, I believe we would have won at least two more National Championships and probably more

Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:47 am to
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Except, go look at the recruiting rankings for OM for each of the 3. Os classes were on par with the 'horrible' cutcliffe, and worse than Nutt.


You are full of crap moonbat and you are a waste of time. Computer rankings don't matter, according to the statement released by the Athletic Department at Ole Miss, Cutcliffe was fired specifically because of recruiting and because of defense, and the problem with the defense was a direct result of his piss poor recruiting.

Furthermore, Coach Cutcliffe couldn't even win with those players he recruited either, let alone Coach O.

In addition, when Coach O was fired after three years and with another year left on his contract, Coach Houston Nutt became the head coach and won immediately with Coach O's Players for three years until they graduated, and then suddenly, like someone flicked a switch, Coach Houston Nutt couldn't win with his own players. Which again proves that you are either an ignoramus or a damn liar and in my opinion both.

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So nutt comes in with basically the same talent that O received, and performs much better. Facts are Interesting.


You're right, facts are interesting. However, your problem is you couldn't recognize a fact even if it stared you in the face, winked at you, and then spit in your eye.

You're just a waste of time moonbat!
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 11:00 am
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:57 am to
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Winning 80% of your games is hard as hell, no matter what school you're at. There are literally example after example of schools more prestigious than LSU falling off the map because of a poor head coach hire.



Okay Einstein, why can’t Les Miles find a job today? With one of the best coaching records ever in collegiate football history, why won’t anybody touch that pathetic loser with a 10-foot pole? Indeed, he should be like Chip Kelly is today, mentioned for every head coaching job that opens up, but he is not. Instead, he is like the plague. Nobody wants him because unlike you are, they aren’t dumb and stupid you mental handicap. Now go take a hike and get lost, you ignoramus.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15836 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:14 am to
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Okay Einstein, why can’t Les Miles find a job today?

Because he's only taking interviews to meet the terms of his buyout, Einstein.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:18 am to
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Furthermore, Coach Cutcliffe couldn't even win with those players he recruited either, let alone Coach O.


Cutcliffe was 44-29 at OM, and his last and worst year was still better than any of O's seasons. You keep calling us ignorant, yet still have no fricking clue what you're talking about. And, unlike you, it doesn't take me 4 paragraphs to prove a simple point.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:20 am to
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Nobody was talking about the 90s you Einstein. Damn!


You said LSU was "always" able to recruit itself because it's LSU. He proved you wrong, and you move the goalposts. Typical.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:23 am to
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O is still under .500, even with his interim stints.



That’s only because Ole Miss fired him, Einstein. Like Hugh Escort Freeze said, had Coach O been given his final year, he would probably still be the head coach at Ole Miss today.

In fact, when his replacement Coach Houston Nutt came in, he was immediately able to win with Coach O’s players for three years, and then when Coach O’s players graduated after three years, like someone flicked a switch, all of a sudden Coach Houston Nutt couldn’t win with his own players and got fired.

Meanwhile, Coach Cutcliffe, who was fired mainly because of piss poor recruiting couldn’t win either with the players he had personally recruited, let alone Coach O. Not to mention, that Coach Cutcliffe isn't any slouch of a coach either. He is probably the best coach Duke University ever had.

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Les has the best winning % of any LSU coach ever, and did it over 11 years, yet Les is the mediocre coach and O would've won us multiple championships. You're so fricking delusional it's sad.



Okay Einstein, why can’t Les Miles find a job today? With one of the best coaching record ever in collegiate football history, why won’t anybody touch that pathetic loser with a 10-foot pole? Indeed, he should be like Chip Kelly is today, mentioned for every head coaching job that opens up, but he is not. Instead, he is like the plague. Nobody wants him because unlike you are, they aren’t dumb and stupid, you mental handicap.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:25 am to
Go take a hike and get lost you troll.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:26 am to
Ok, you're ignoring the facts we're posting and just copying and pasting the same stuff over and over. I'm out. Can't deal with an idiot anymore.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:26 am to
I'm a troll???
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:27 am to
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You said it yourself, only 13 lousy players in 2005 thanks to Miles.


So Miles gets hired on January 3, 2005, about one month before national signing day and you expect him to be able to sign a full class when saban had quit recruiting for LSU during the 2004 season?

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but it didn't matter because nick saban had already recruited two national championships teams before he left for Miami.


So saban had these National Championship teams on campus but he could only win 9 games with said championship team in 2004? And as I pointed out earlier, Saban was lucky to get past Oregon State to start 2004.

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114 wins, 34 losses in 11+ years

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At one of the best college football programs in the country


Why hadn't it been done before at LSU? Since Miles is such a retard in your eyes, there sure as hell should have been somebody else that should won that many games or had that winning percentage at LSU.

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Meanwhile, I want what you are smoking.


I don't want what you're smoking. You're smoking sabans cock.

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Nobody was talking about the 90s you Einstein


You said, and I quote "LSU was always able to recruit well because it was LSU" If LSU was always able to recruit well because it was LSU, I believe that would include the 90s. LSU did play football in the 90s Einstein.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:34 am to
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Furthermore, Coach Cutcliffe couldn't even win with those players he recruited either, let alone Coach O.


Ok, then tell me this... Why did O win LESS than Cutcliffe with the leftover players, plus the players O brought in? You keep telling us how Nutt won right away with O's players, why couldn't O?
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