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re: "I would be foolish to leave," les miles

Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

PurpleAndGold86


Hey man, we don't just give raises for the hell of it. LSU football is in the business of making money.

That's all I have to say to you about this. I'm done.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57230 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:38 pm to
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How do you know? Funny how you just make stuff up and then preach it on here like you know it to be a fact.


What happened was obvious. What is more rational?

A. LSU paid Les not to lose him
B. LSU paid Les for no reason
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:39 pm to
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My posts are directed at the posters that are gobbling up this shite like it was covered in cream cheese and pumpkin spice.


why should i believe you? you've posted nothing but opinion and speculation
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

A. LSU paid Les not to lose him

does not equate to "Les threatened to leave."
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:40 pm to
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why is this such big damn deal to some people anyways?

My thought exactly. He got a 7 year hitch at which time he will most likely retire. Good deal I say.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57230 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

why should i believe you? you've posted nothing but opinion and speculation


As opposed to the alternative of what the pumpers are offering...gee let me think
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57230 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:41 pm to
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does not equate to "Les threatened to leave."


Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:42 pm to
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Dude if you can't understand the different between a direct threat and an implication - and the fact that they might have the same psychological effect on our AD (a perceived threat) I don't know what to tell you.


More than likely his agent told Alleva that based on new potential coaching hires in the SEC, Les could be middle of the pack in a year or two salary wise, which isn't commensurate with results. Alleva may have drug his feat a little, and suddenly other interests appear. Jimmy Sexton is the king of this.
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:42 pm to
Proof? Oh wait, that's the thing you can't provide.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41291 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:42 pm to
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As opposed to the alternative of what the pumpers are offering...gee let me think


Using the word pumpers to describe actual lsu fans invalidates anyone's argument instantly. It's pretty embarrassing and immature.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:44 pm to
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What happened was obvious. What is more rational?

A. LSU paid Les not to lose him
B. LSU paid Les for no reason


Ok so we have established that your are just posting opinion and speculation.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56342 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:44 pm to
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If i was Aleva I'd immediately call some lawyers and Les in a room to renegotiate Les' pay back to its previous level then. This is like Les bragging that no one called his bluff. Here is the obvious question: what was Les willing to do if LSU didn't renegotiate his contract?


I don't think you comprehended that article.

What he is saying is that the talks with Arkansas were serious, but that he didn't use it to raise his lay. He used it to solidify the length of the contract so that the program can continue to thrive into the future.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24244 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

does not equate to "Les threatened to leave."




companies give key employees raises all the time in order to increase their chances of retaining them without an actual threat. Most understand the marketplace and know good workers are always in demand.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34154 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:48 pm to
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Some of us are so ate up with Bama, that we can't see the excellence that is LSU football.

An excellence I have never before seen in my lifetime as an LSU fan.

I would like to play for a NC every year, but I can live very well as a fan knowing LSU has played for 3 NC in the last 10 yrs.

Any LSU fan who can't, well, that's their problem. I'm just glad its not mine.





The simple answer to what you are frustrated about is that most of our fans are idiots because they became fans in 2003. They started liking them with a NC win and that's what they expect every year and anything less is unacceptable.

Les guides a team to a national championship last year with the two worst QB's in college football history. But nobody talks how that was a ridiculously good accomplishment because we lost in the NCG. Added that it was Saban. O god LSU dominated Bama for almost an entire game this year until Chavis decides to play prevent defense and give Bama a late touchdown OMG SABAN IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN MILES THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8164 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

What happened was obvious. What is more rational?

A. LSU paid Les not to lose him
B. LSU paid Les for no reason



You are leaving out a glaring "C" option:

C. LSU paid Les to reward him for his consistency and success.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

companies give key employees raises all the time in order to increase their chances of retaining them without an actual threat. Most understand the marketplace and know good workers are always in demand.


Bingo. I don't get what is so hard for some of these people to understand about this.

quote:

You are leaving out a glaring "C" option:

C. LSU paid Les to reward him for his consistency and success.


Yes, but thats only what the "pumpers" believe. He threatened to leave right? In their minds that is a totally irrational thought and it could never have gone that way. We are all naive for thinking this way.
Posted by Tyger1919
Pineville
Member since Sep 2009
1020 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

What he is saying is that the talks with Arkansas were serious, but that he didn't use it to raise his lay. He used it to solidify the length of the contract so that the program can continue to thrive into the future.


His talks were not serious. It was simple a friend leaking something to the press to help him out.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:53 pm to
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Hey man, we don't just give raises for the hell of it. LSU football is in the business of making money.


Again, you always have such sharp insight to provide.

I guess LSU football hasn't been making much money the past couple seasons.

Posted by liquid rabbit
Boxtard BPB®© emeritus
Member since Mar 2006
60248 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 1:53 pm to
Here's another idea. Shirley, the AD's office knew Miles wasn't going to leave for R-Kansas, when he twice turned down his dream job of Michigan. They knew he wouldn't leave.

But if Arky was upping the ante for a coach to 4+ million, then Miles was woefully underpaid for his value of keeping LSU in the top 10. It was a salary adjustment for inflation.
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