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How many cops, EMT, etc. are required to be in Gainesville for this game?
Posted on 10/5/16 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 10/5/16 at 4:41 pm
Wont it be nice they can be there instead of helping people in need in the state of Florida.
UF representing.
tPOS trash.
UF representing.
tPOS trash.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 4:43 pm to CptBengal
Can you imagine the trailer damage down there.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 4:45 pm to CptBengal
this game is never going to be played....in Gainsville
I can see some rationalizing in the SEC Office and this game moved.
That said it's likely the UF AD and HC are trying to pull a fast one.
I can see some rationalizing in the SEC Office and this game moved.
That said it's likely the UF AD and HC are trying to pull a fast one.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 4:48 pm to CptBengal
This is the real problem.
As a member of the US Coast Guard stationed in New Orleans, it is really, really stupid for Florida to continue to host this game in Gainesville while simultaneously declaring a state of emergency.
Essentially, they're saying they need federal assistance because they will not have adequate local resources, however, they feel it is acceptable to dedicate those same resources to a football game.
My bet is that the game will be canceled, which is a shame, knowing that the game could've been moved to a neutral location or Baton Rouge. Hell, I live in Slidell and I'd be willing to let some Gators stay with us and wait out the storm before going back. I know how shitty these storms can be.
As a member of the US Coast Guard stationed in New Orleans, it is really, really stupid for Florida to continue to host this game in Gainesville while simultaneously declaring a state of emergency.
Essentially, they're saying they need federal assistance because they will not have adequate local resources, however, they feel it is acceptable to dedicate those same resources to a football game.
My bet is that the game will be canceled, which is a shame, knowing that the game could've been moved to a neutral location or Baton Rouge. Hell, I live in Slidell and I'd be willing to let some Gators stay with us and wait out the storm before going back. I know how shitty these storms can be.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 4:49 pm to CptBengal
FL Governor is too chicken shite to step in and stop the greed.
I bet that there are many lawsuits against the U for diverting emergency resources like they will have to do to put the game on.
I bet that there are many lawsuits against the U for diverting emergency resources like they will have to do to put the game on.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 4:51 pm to Flame Salamander
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I bet that there are many lawsuits against the U for diverting emergency resources like they will have to do to put the game on.
It should be a criminal action considering the declaration of State of Emergency.
Criminal action.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 4:53 pm to CptBengal
at this point, my thoughts are frick 'em! If the UF folks dont care about the sitaution, why should we?
Posted on 10/5/16 at 4:54 pm to CptBengal
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Wont it be nice they can be there instead of helping people in need in the state of Florida.
TBH, I don't care.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 4:54 pm to athletemed
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why should we?
Ummm, because we dont have the IQ of a retarded walrus
Posted on 10/5/16 at 4:55 pm to CptBengal
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Wont it be nice they can be there instead of helping people in need in the state of Florida.
The only valid reason for moving the game.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 5:05 pm to CptBengal
As a Firefighter/First Responder we are unable to leave under no circumstance. I have rode out many storms. All personnel is to report for duty, so essentially you have the entire department (3 shifts worth of personnel in our case). Same goes for the police and ems agencies.
Gainsville will be over staffed for the storm, meaning there will be more than enough available for the storm.
They aren't anticipating a direct hit, therefore there isn't a mandatory evacuation, and I'm sure large departments are well aware of their duties.
These people will know well before us if and when the game is played and if it will be safe.
The amount of personnel will not be an issue. And if rescues need to be made, which they won't, but let's say they do, they will have plenty enough to do so. It's gainsville not some small town department or volunteers. They are well prepared. Plus they will work along side the national guard reserves and coast guard shall they need more assistance in roof top rescues. Plenty plenty of experienced and trained people on call and they are ready.
Eta: I dont agree with playing the game with this much concern. Safety is most important.
Gainsville will be over staffed for the storm, meaning there will be more than enough available for the storm.
They aren't anticipating a direct hit, therefore there isn't a mandatory evacuation, and I'm sure large departments are well aware of their duties.
These people will know well before us if and when the game is played and if it will be safe.
The amount of personnel will not be an issue. And if rescues need to be made, which they won't, but let's say they do, they will have plenty enough to do so. It's gainsville not some small town department or volunteers. They are well prepared. Plus they will work along side the national guard reserves and coast guard shall they need more assistance in roof top rescues. Plenty plenty of experienced and trained people on call and they are ready.
Eta: I dont agree with playing the game with this much concern. Safety is most important.
This post was edited on 10/5/16 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 10/5/16 at 5:12 pm to LSUcajun77
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The amount of personnel will not be an issue
It will be.
They've declared a state of emergency.
And us. I have rode out hurricanes as a FR
Posted on 10/5/16 at 5:13 pm to LSUcajun77
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Gainsville will be over staffed for the storm, meaning there will be more than enough available for the storm
Are you serious?
Posted on 10/5/16 at 5:14 pm to CptBengal
This was an asinine decision.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 5:15 pm to CptBengal
No it won't.
I was in New Orleans for Katrina for 6 weeks. We were more than staffed and not only recused all day but fought a record amount of fires. Now we had FDNY down here assisting or demolishing houses instead of fighting the fires, however you wanna call it.
Louisiana declares a state of emergency for large weather cells and everyone gets paid for it. Doesn't mean shite to every Parrish in the state.
Gainsville will be ready and prepared. The staffing will not be an issue. Promise.
And if need be WE along with departments all over the country will be shipped to assist.
I went to Oklahoma, Tuscaloosa, Houston, New York. They will have enough hands.
I was in New Orleans for Katrina for 6 weeks. We were more than staffed and not only recused all day but fought a record amount of fires. Now we had FDNY down here assisting or demolishing houses instead of fighting the fires, however you wanna call it.
Louisiana declares a state of emergency for large weather cells and everyone gets paid for it. Doesn't mean shite to every Parrish in the state.
Gainsville will be ready and prepared. The staffing will not be an issue. Promise.
And if need be WE along with departments all over the country will be shipped to assist.
I went to Oklahoma, Tuscaloosa, Houston, New York. They will have enough hands.
This post was edited on 10/5/16 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 10/5/16 at 5:17 pm to Flame Salamander
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Are you serious?
Did they change how things are done recently?
If you have 170 people on a fire department a day then add 2 or 3 more shifts you are over staffed.
I've done this for a long time. Katrina couldn't put a dent in our departments, this thing will not impact gainsville the same way. Plus the amount of outsiders that will come.
I think there is a lot of over reaction by a lot of people who don't know how this works. And how well prepared and staffed those who stay and work are. And the amount of assistance they will receive from other departments. It's not their first hurricane
It'll be fine. But like I already said, don't play the game and be safe. That's most important.
This post was edited on 10/5/16 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 10/5/16 at 5:24 pm to LSUcajun77
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I've done this for a long time. Katrina couldn't put a dent in our departments, this thing will not impact gainsville the same way. Plus the amount of outsiders that will come.
You are using Katrina as a positive example of emergency responses?
Posted on 10/5/16 at 5:28 pm to Flame Salamander
Yes. How hard is that to understand the example?
Largest natural disaster to hit our country.
I'm using to show how prepared you become and how everyone used it as a learning tool. FDNY teaches it for their emergencies. It worked well for them when sandy hit.
The point was departments, fire, police, ems have been trained, cities run constant evacuation plans and emergency training all year for this moment.
We set up shelters and evacuation plans once a year. For practice and training.
The issue was manpower. It's not like everyone goes to work one day and boom and disaster hits. The city and every department are constantly working on these details all year regardless of emergencies.
Now what's your point?
Largest natural disaster to hit our country.
I'm using to show how prepared you become and how everyone used it as a learning tool. FDNY teaches it for their emergencies. It worked well for them when sandy hit.
The point was departments, fire, police, ems have been trained, cities run constant evacuation plans and emergency training all year for this moment.
We set up shelters and evacuation plans once a year. For practice and training.
The issue was manpower. It's not like everyone goes to work one day and boom and disaster hits. The city and every department are constantly working on these details all year regardless of emergencies.
Now what's your point?
This post was edited on 10/5/16 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 10/5/16 at 5:34 pm to LSUcajun77
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Now what's your point?
My point is that there were people stranded on rooftops five days after the Katrina passed. I would argue that that wasn't a good response by emergency personnel.....and that there weren't enough emergency personnel.
You are very confident that more emergency people deployed to the most hard hit areas of Florida won't help. I would disagree.....especially if you are using Katrina as an example of how things went well.
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