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Has the new ball reset the equilibrium of college baseball

Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:57 pm
So, we're in about year 10 or so of college baseball using actual seasons to test theories about their game. LSU has been on the wrong side of recruiting on these changes. LSU got caught flat-footed by the new bats and turned its team of gap-power hitters into liabilities when the gap-power dried up. Mainieri reacted by recruiting athletic faster players like Laird and Stevenson. By the time they were juniors the NCAA switched the ball which returned utility to some of the players LSU used to recruit.

Where are we now? Is the UCLA formula dead? Or did the new ball only help the most gifted hitters get a few more xbhs and everyone else is still trapped in the dead ball era?
Posted by zoom
everywhere
Member since Apr 2013
3564 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 4:14 pm to
Why can't college use the mlb ball? Its dream of many players. Some prep now.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
20962 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 4:23 pm to
I understand the safety factor, but no one was getting killed in 2009. The NCAA has ruined college baseball. High scoring and home runs is the reason people fell in love with the game. Frankly, MLB is boring to watch and horrible. There is a fine line in doing too much and the NCAA has done it. College baseball is as boring to watch as MLB now.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 4:27 pm to
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Has the new ball reset the equilibrium of college baseball
Define equilibrium.

It's in the right direction. The trouble with finding "equilibrium" is the wide variety of skill level in college. MLB is about 30 teams. College is well over 500. High Schools have adopted the standard (BBCOR) which just ruins the game at that level. They need to go back.

For LSU, we're still in a decent spot. But the odd thing that has happened has what it has done to recruiting/scouting both in college and MLB. High school hitters are more willing to skip school. Judging a pitcher is more difficult.

2010 was perfect. Composite was gone (rolling). But we weren't under the BBCOR standard yet.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 4:36 pm
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
11420 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:05 pm to
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2009 was perfect


FIFY
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:08 pm to
The only problem with 2009 was that people were cheating the standards with rolling. Or after a certain amount of contacts, the composites generated more "spring". The baats used in the 2009 World Series were tested and found to be way outside of the rules. And there's zero way to know if it was simply from being used or rolling. No way to police it.
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
8958 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:09 am to
What frustrates me about the game is that the way the game is now, the better team wins say 6 out of every 10 games played. So even if you are a much better (more talent, more work) team, every game feels like a crapshoot.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
20173 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:19 am to
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What frustrates me about the game is that the way the game is now, the better team wins say 6 out of every 10 games played. So even if you are a much better (more talent, more work) team, every game feels like a crapshoot.


That's pretty much baseball in general.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10010 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:07 am to
People are just upset because LSU isn't winning championships anymore. If LSU had won 2 or 3 under Maineri, you wouldn't hear any complaints about balls and bats.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18130 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:16 am to
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What frustrates me about the game is that the way the game is now, the better team wins say 6 out of every 10 games played. So even if you are a much better (more talent, more work) team, every game feels like a crapshoot.



yes, thank you!! I've been saying this for years and I'm surprised more people don't acknowledge this fact.

In MLB, the best team has a record of .600 and the worst team is usually at .400. Now some would say that's parity, but it's actually just the nature of the game. A well-hit line drive that should be extra bases is just an out if it's hit right at an infielder. And that's just pure luck. A seeing-eye single is lucky too. A bloop is lucky. It's too often just a crapshoot.

No one is shocked when the worst team shuts out the best team 8-0. In football or even basketball, that would be huge.

Baseball is far too slow, with far too little offense and far too few athletic plays. Most hits are routine singles or doubles and most put outs are generic. Even home runs are boring (hit a ball over a fence and jog around the bases). It's all just a big yawn.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:33 am to
No one complained about the balls... it's the bats.

And have you ever used them?
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