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Glaring weaknesses after 2007
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:10 am
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:10 am
It appears to me that every season after the 2007 season we have glaring and obvious points of weakness on our teams. It always seem as if we are missing that one critical component. Whether it be QB's, Defense, O-Line, O Coordinators, D Coordinators, etc. something is always missing that keeps us from having a balanced team. They always say that good players make good coaches. So what changed in our players at the end of the 2007 season that signified us going down this path?
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:11 am to Tiger Vision
Great question.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:13 am to Tiger Vision
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So what changed in our players at the end of the 2007 season that signified us going down this path?
well we suffered through 4 years of JJ/JL for one
last year, the offense was frustratingly stagnant, and then the entire defense left for the NFL
But I'm sure the point of this thread is that Saban is god
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:14 am to Tiger Vision
2011 team was better than 2007. There is only one team in college football that has seemingly had no weaknesses in the past 4 years.
It's college football, that's what happens, save for the lone exception.
It's college football, that's what happens, save for the lone exception.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:17 am to Tiger Vision
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They always say that good players make good coaches.
is it me or does it seem like this sentence doesn't really belong?
the biggest issue during that time span was QB development. after that attrition, whether it was due to discipline, injury, or guys turning pro (or whatever happened with Hurst).
chill out though, we'll be back.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:18 am to Tiger Vision
Well, we did lose 2 regular season games in 2007. We lost 2 in 2010, none in 2011, and 2 in 2012. A 2 loss team wasn't good enough in 2010 and 2012, and we got unlucky drawing Bama again in 2011.
I guess you can say our luck has changed.
I guess you can say our luck has changed.
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 9:22 am
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:19 am to EarthwormJim
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2011 team was better than 2007
Better as in more NFL talent? I think the 2007 team was a more balanced team. I don't know that they would win a head to head match-up with the 2011 team but I think the balance made them a better overall "team". You must be forgetting how the 2011 Offense played in the 1st half of SEC Championship and on 1/9. The 2007 D had some issues against R-Kansas but they were still a great unit. Nobody will ever call the 2011 Offense a great unit.
2007 = Great D, Good O
2011 = Great D, Terrible O
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 9:22 am
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:19 am to EarthwormJim
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2011 team was better than 2007.
truth considering all it was really missing was a matty flynn type qb to be the best season in cfb history
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:20 am to Tiger Vision
It's really, really hard to put together a perfect team. Bama's best CB got burned multiple times sat night. Our 2011 squad was pretty damn good considering we beat every team on the schedule.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:23 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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Bama's best CB got burned multiple times sat night
Would you consider this to be a glaring team weakness?
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:23 am to Tiger Vision
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I don't know that they would win a head to head match-up with the 2011 team but I think the balance made them a better overall "team".
I'm not sure what this even means.
Just because a team is "balanced" doesn't make them better. That 2011 team was running an NFL defense. The only problem was they had to face another team loaded with NFL players twice.
2007 never had to do that.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:25 am to Tiger Vision
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Would you consider this to be a glaring team weakness?
You wouldn't? Key word is best. That means the other two are worse. If one position can't be defined as a 'glaring team weakness' then the 2011 team was perfect.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:29 am to Tiger Vision
The path to a perfect regular season in 2011?
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:29 am to EarthwormJim
It means if the 2007 team played a head to head game with the 2011 team I am not sure that the 2007 team would win the game due to certain match-ups, etc. However when competing against the rest of the college football world I feel that the 2007 team was better in terms of having less weaknesses in critical areas such as the 2011 Offense. The 2007 team did not a glaring weakness that could be attacked and exploited by the opponent. The 2011 Offense was the Achilles heel of that team and it was exposed and exploited.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:32 am to Tiger Vision
Ask McFadden and Woodson if the 2007 squad had any glaring weaknesses.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:32 am to Tiger Vision
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It means if the 2007 team played a head to head game with the 2011 team I am not sure that the 2007 team would win the game due to certain match-ups, etc. However when competing against the rest of the college football world I feel that the 2007 team was better in terms of having less weaknesses in critical areas such as the 2011 Offense.
Sorry but that makes no sense, considering the 2007 team lost more games than the 2011 teams against weaker competition.
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The 2007 team did not a glaring weakness that could be attacked and exploited by the opponent.
Except Arkansas and Kentucky. All team in college football have weaknesses, some are better at hiding them than others.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:35 am to Tiger Vision
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The 2007 team did not a glaring weakness that could be attacked and exploited by the opponent.
if you could spread the 07 D out, you could attack them with either the run or the pass. UF, UK and Arky showed this. hell, a mediocre Bama team worked the defense a bit too.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:37 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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You wouldn't? Key word is best. That means the other two are worse. If one position can't be defined as a 'glaring team weakness' then the 2011 team was perfect
If it was such a glaring weakness why did we only score 17 points, far below our offenses average for the season, and only 3 points in the 2nd half? Are you saying that we failed to exploit this glaring weakness and use it to our advantage to win the game?
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:37 am to Tiger Vision
i think we've missed leadership and maturity on this team for several years. seems things have changed from "team" to "me". i'm not talking about any particular player--just players as a whole. a lot of this may be chalked up to us glorifying players when they are still recruits. it gives them a sense of entitlement. it also may be the result of an increased number of players leaving early. as a result the new guys don't have as many 4-5 year veterans to emulate.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:38 am to EarthwormJim
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All team in college football have weaknesses, some are better at hiding them than others.
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