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For those who think Miles is stubborn for stubborn's sake, you may be forgetting

Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:55 pm
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
18801 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:55 pm
one thing. Miles has in his contract that if he wins the national title he has to become the highest paid coach in college football. You telling me he likes stubborn over another cool million in the bank? Maybe he knows his team's limtations more than us.
Posted by Mattwells90
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3562 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:17 pm to
Miles wants to win. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:22 pm to
Yes Les tries to win every game...good lord. Whether he is 10-0 or 6-4 he like all coaches will try to win the next game. You can question his strategy and that is fine, but no one should question is desire to win.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5183 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 11:34 pm to
every coach in the country would stand to gain millions, contractual, or not.

he does not believe in the forward pass
Posted by Mattwells90
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3562 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:00 am to
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he does not believe in the forward pass


Disagree. Common rant complaint. Not based in facts.
Posted by Radman64
Bradenton
Member since Oct 2014
281 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:01 am to
you my friend are an idiot for saying that...
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68410 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:04 am to
quote:

he does not believe in the forward pass 


He's had two qbs go over 3k yards. I'd say he plays like LSU has always played. By running the ball.
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:18 am to
Of course he wants to try and win. No one,thinks he wants to lose. His decision making is what is usually in question
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
18801 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:18 am to
Whether he wants to win is not the issue. The issue is if he is doing what he thinks gives us the best chance to win with the personnel we have. His contract incentives would suggest he is, and so do prior seasons like 2007 & 2011 where we were very balanced offensively.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 2:19 am
Posted by MondayMorningMarch
Pumping Sunshine. She's cute!
Member since Dec 2006
16837 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:20 am to
I'm convinced that the coaching staff does everything they can to win every game with the talent they've recruited. They stand to profit if they can pull off said goal. How they go about doing that is their business. We're here to critique how they go about doing their business wishing for wins every game. We usually win, and that's a good thing.

Posted by andys4lsu
Vinton, LA
Member since Sep 2006
667 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:57 am to
Sometimes he is unsuccessful in trying to escape defeat. While the want for victory is there, trying not to lose gets in the way.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5183 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:18 am to
I refuted the fact that just because he has contractual incentives necessarily means that he couldn't, or wouldn't make mistakes that might be borne out of unwillingness to change his philosophy (I didn't say the opposite either), I just said that it does not ipso facto mean that he wouldn't make mistakes

further in saying that he does not believe in the forward pass (it was a tongue in cheek exaggeration), but there have clearly been many times while Miles has been at the helm that he has chosen conservative rushing offenses and game planning, including when LSU lost 41 to 3, or whatever it was

it's an observable fact and far from idiocy
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 5:22 am
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14853 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 6:51 am to
OF course he wants to win CLM is his own worst enemy.

Money does strange things e.g. lull you into thinking that because you make a lot of money you are smarter and know more than others.

The smartest people in the world are not necessarilty the richest.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 6:52 am to
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he does not have confidence that his young QBs can complete a forward pass, therefore he eschews the forward pass in an attempt to put his team in the best position to win football games by running the ball.

fixt

The man OBVIOUSLY plays to his teams strengths.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 6:56 am to
Have you ever drank in excess to the point that you knew you would be hungover the next day? It is in human nature to do things against what is in our best interest.

I love Les Miles, but he is stubborn and that is just the truth. Can be a good quality in some situations and a bad quality in others.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:27 am to
quote:

Disagree. Common rant complaint. Not based in facts.



it sort of is ...

his idea of "balanced" offense is 1/3 passes -seldom to the middle (slants or screens -tight ends involvement is rare)
2/3 rushes... and mostly up the middle.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11174 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:28 am to
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:30 am to
quote:

The man OBVIOUSLY plays to his teams strengths.


really ?
NFL caliber QB and Receivers with Mett, Odell, etc....
his game plan changed some (because Cam was new), but not to any great length...if you considered the weapons
Posted by rau3
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2014
33 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:17 am to
I'm not discrediting Miles, but a lot of teams role out new quarterbacks and put together competent and serviceable offenses. Ours was that at times this year and other times was a hot bag of shite. Looking to get more consistency
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16210 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:21 am to
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he cannot develop a QB to complete the forward pass


fixed it for you
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