re: For chatter about Les' future, let's remember how big the buyout is

Les isnt going anywhere regardless of the buyout. OK he had a yr with a sophomore QB with 1 start and a true freshman QB going into a season where the SEC was stacked like never before.
8-4 with a 4-2 finish in league play that couldve easily been 5-1. See TCU in 2013 under similar circumstances in the strong chested Big 12. Some of u just have absolutely zero clue on what a good coaching year is.

Some of u think LSU should win the national title every yr because the school was built on an old burial ground or something.

Name a coach with these two playing QB last yr that wouldve done any better.

Hint: Its not Gary Patterson.

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8-4 with a 4-2 finish in league play that couldve easily been 5-1.

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Didn't we lose 4 conference games last year?

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But that coach isn't out there right now.

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How do you know this. Just say that there isn't a coach that you would hire.
The way that you pick a coach is by watching what they are doing with less resources. I look at a Bo Pelini and what he was able to do at Nebraska. Imagine what he could do with the talent at LSU. We also haven't won a NC since he left

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if he goes 0-12 this year and loses the first 4 games next year, he will be fired

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So he might have used a bit of hyperbole at the end saying "no matter what happens" but his point stands. That is about what it would take to get Les canned in the next 2 years and LSU isn't losing 16 consecutive games.

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I don't know which part of this is more ridiculous, the notion that if Les were terminated, that he would want to rebuild another program at age 62

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i never said that he would want to, i said, 'if he wants to', as in it may be an option that he might want to use.

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2 NC appearances, 2 SEC Championships, 3 SEC West Championships, 100+ career wins at LSU, and consistent Top 10 recruiting classes.

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funny how most Leslie-lovers never realize that the numbers before 'consistent top 10 recruiting classes' should be higher.

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We win a natty between now and 2017, he retires.

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. Nope

He negotiates a $6.5 MM annual salary and sucks out three more years of cream - at least.

The guy has made about $40 MM as a head coach. He's paid maybe $18 MM in taxes, and he's spent probably $5 MM. So he has no more than $17 MM stashed in all liklihood. I know that sounds like a lot to you OT ballers, but the chance to add another $10 MM in three years would be too good to pass up.

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funny how most Leslie-lovers never realize that the numbers before 'consistent top 10 recruiting classes' should be higher.

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Funny how most Miles-haters never realize that from 2005-12, LSU had gone 85-21, better than any program in the country not named Boise State.

Then we lost 11 underclassmen to the NFL Draft in 2012 and went 10-3 in 2013.
Then we lost 7 underclassmen to the NFL Draft in 2013 and went 8-5 in 2014.

And even after that mass exodus, we're Top 5 in CFB in wins since 2005 and Top 10 in CFB in wins since 2011.

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Even as he's being paid now, it isn't as if he's being overpaid. Every coach in the West is making over $4 million.

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name another coach in the $4 million/year club that has lost to his school's biggest rival four times in a row.

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How's Tennessee feeling right now about Fulmer getting cut?

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that's a ridiculous argument... one, fulmer had a pair of five win seasons in his last four years and his recruiting had begun to slip.

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That said, Les' staff is set through the end of 2017

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i read something recently that said that the majority of the assistants and non-coaching football staff were only signed for this year and next... frank wilson and cam cameron are the only ones whose contract runs to 2017 as far as i know... i'm pretty sure that most assistant coach's buyout is 50% of the remaining contract... so that would make it possible for LSU to dump the bulk of its assistants (cameron and wilson aside) for right around a million dollars. if Leslie pumps out another 8 win season this year, i'm thinking it's a real possibility that he will be gone.

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LSU will at the very least, win the SEC in the next two years.

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LSU will struggle to win nine regular season games this year and struggle to win the west in 2016.

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This always seems to be overlooked, but it blows my mind. Miles keeps falling further down the list of highest paid coaches, but none of the coaches jumping him have had more success.

Sumlin makes more than Miles, and Freeze and Mullen make the same amount. And none of them have sniffed an SEC West title.

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those other coaches don't have the talent that Leslie has to work with either... and freeze and mullen have both beaten Leslie in the past two years.