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re: For all the fans thinking the ship is sinking here's your life boat.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:09 pm to rickyh
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:09 pm to rickyh
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This is not his fault.
Even if all the other stuff you said is true, the team quitting on Saturday is absolutely his fault and unacceptable 3 games into his first real year.
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:10 pm to rickyh
So you’re telling me we picked Ed Orgeron to rebuild a program 
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:11 pm to FiddleHead
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The point of hiring O was to avoid a rebuild
I don't understand this line of thinking.
We have way too few linemen on both sides of the ball. The ones we have can't block or stop the run. I don't care if you think you were lied to by somebody, or what you think you were getting, but this is at least a partial rebuild.
So why not stop complaining and just rebuild this bitch.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:11 pm to LNCHBOX
It wasn't supposed to be--not that bad at least. But, you know, injuries and transfers out the arse kinda force the matter.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:12 pm to Barbellthor
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But, you know, injuries and transfers out the arse kinda force the matter.
It really sucks we're the only school that has those issues.
ETA: It also sucks that we didn't have those issues until this past Saturday.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:14 pm to Slippy
Because Ed Orgeron can barley coach a team much less rebuild a fricking program
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:14 pm to FiddleHead
Mother of god, Saturday can not get here fast enough!
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:14 pm to Brazos
How many people in life failed at previous jobs and became homerun hires down the road. You can't judge Coach O or any coach for that matter of one previous coaching job. It was ole miss that was horrible when he got there. Like I said in previous messages is Coach o may not be the right guy. But time will tell and I am riding this ship out.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:16 pm to tigerfourlife
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You can't judge Coach O or any coach for that matter of one previous coaching job
Can I judge him on the team quitting very early in the game? How about for the persistent sloppy and undisciplined play? Is that fair?
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:16 pm to Impotent Waffle
Yes it’ll be a huge statement win over Syracuse. That will totally shut all the haters up
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:18 pm to FiddleHead
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The point of hiring O was to avoid a rebuild
This is what I don't get... If O was hired or wasn't hired, the team would have been essentially the same. The coaches would have been different, but not the team. Just because Alleva's logic was flawed doesn't mean all the fans have to keep using it as justification for their argument. It's dumb. It's just plain dumb.
And before anyone quotes Urban Meyer, I get his point. You coach what you've got. But Orgeron isn't crying that it's a rebuilding year. It's just message board bullshite.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:18 pm to FiddleHead
Im just happy not having a moron for a head coach anymore.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:18 pm to tigerfourlife
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How many people in life failed at previous jobs and became homerun hires down the road.
Not very many at all. Gene Stallings is the one most often mentioned but can't think of any other college examples.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:19 pm to Goldrush25
quote:Are you implying that the Saban of today is < Orgeron?
Saban of 20 years ago is better than Ed Orgeron is now.
quote:Please forward to the Les Miles Greatest Coach ever/10-wins baby/Saban had nothing to do with it fan club.
That tells you how difficult it is to manage a program even for a great coach like Saban and you can't just sub in any old coach and expect results just because the infrastructure is outstanding.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:20 pm to tigerpawl
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Saban of 20 years ago is better than Ed Orgeron is now.
Are you implying that the Saban of today is < Orgeron?
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That tells you how difficult it is to manage a program even for a great coach like Saban and you can't just sub in any old coach and expect results just because the infrastructure is outstanding.
Please forward to the Les Miles Greatest Coach ever/10-wins baby/Saban had nothing to do with it fan club.
I feel like you are way misunderstanding what he said.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:21 pm to CptBengal
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Im just happy not having a moron for a head coach anymore.
O's dazed look on the field Saturday certainly resembled a genius.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:21 pm to rickyh
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This job is a rebuild.
bullshite!
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This is not his fault.
bullshite again!
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:23 pm to tigerfourlife
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I will end by saying this Coach O may not be the right guy. But can you with out a doubt say you know who the right guy is?
No offense, but there was nothing BEFORE he was hired to suggest Ogeron was the "right guy." That's where the anger is coming from. As others have mentioned so many times, the selling point in favor of Ogeron was "continuity." He was going to keep the defensive coaching staff in tact. He was going to keep last year's recruiting class in tact. The only thing he was going to change was the thing Miles wouldn't, the overall offensive philosophy. Now everyone says "be patient. This is a rebuild."
If a rebuild was necessary, then why not start with an entirely new staff? Instead, you're essentially asking the same people who (ostensibly) put you in the position where a rebuild was necessary to then rebuild the team.
If Ogeron isn't the right guy, then the longer he stays the worse it will get. And the the question has to be asked: Why did you hire a guy with concerns in the first place? This is almost the EXACT same hire as Johnny Jones. Being cautiously optimistic about your coach from day 1 doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
The loss doesn't necessarily bother me as much as the fact that the team visibly QUIT in the second half. Regardless of the sport that is generally the death knell for a HC. If you players don't respect you or the program enough to keep fighting, then you are useless as a coach. They have tuned you out.
Hopefully, last Sat. was just a wake up call for all vs. a wave of the white flag.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:24 pm to FiddleHead
Yall negative mother frickers need to find another team
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:24 pm to tigerfourlife
Its possible that O turns out to be a homerun hire but it's highly unlikely. This hire was beyond risky and LSU really had no reason to take such a risk due to the fact they had a head start on everybody looking for a coach. Time will tell but O is off to a horrendous start to prove that he has changed.
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