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Etling situation a good thing?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:24 am
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:24 am
I know I'm being quite optimistic but does anyone think this could actually light a fire under brandon harris now that his job is up in the air?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:27 am to jp001
No. Harris does not have the cognitive skills to play QB. I don't mean he's stupid. Plenty of stupid guys have played QB very well, Terry Bradshaw and Brett Favre for examples.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:28 am to jp001
Maybe but it definitely will help if somehow we win out and look like a "new" team with the QB change. at the end of the year if its between us and another 1 loss team they might say "well this LSU team isnt really the same one that lost week one, they may have won it with this new guy at QB."
Its pure speculation on my part and I doubt we win out (schedule too strong), but it could play in our favor.
Its pure speculation on my part and I doubt we win out (schedule too strong), but it could play in our favor.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:34 am to jp001
Two fold here, Harris will so his metal either way
and this Etling kid has been where Harris finds himself
and this Etling kid has been where Harris finds himself
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:35 am to jp001
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Etling situation a good thing?
Yeah, but not because of Harris. It's a good thing, because it's done even more to expose Les as inept and needing to be replaced ASAP.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:46 am to Bert Macklin FBI
quote:This is a doubled edge sword for Mikes. He is already labeled as not being able to recruit and develope Qb's. If DE does turn the season around it just magnifies Miles inability to recruit quarterbacks for his system.
Maybe but it definitely will help if somehow we win out and look like a "new" team with the QB change
The best QB during Miles tenure was the least athletic least mobile of any of his Qb's, AND they did not initially recruit him.
If Miles doesn't want to change the offense then at least recruit Qb's for the scheme. I'm tired of the yearly square peg round hole experiment.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:47 am to jp001
Harris was done when he badly overthrew the TE on a simple 5 yard out route to get a first down on first series. Harris does not lead the team either.
I'm not saying Etling is the answer, we will find out soon enough this weekend against SEC competition.
It's mind boggling when other teams run so many more plays than our offense which exposes our d way too much.
I'm not saying Etling is the answer, we will find out soon enough this weekend against SEC competition.
It's mind boggling when other teams run so many more plays than our offense which exposes our d way too much.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:49 am to jp001
This is what I noticed in terms of the differences between Etling and Harris. Some are obvious:
1. The long ball. Harris appears to have better touch and accuracy with the long ball. Reading the Boilmaker's message boards it's apparent that Etling struggled with interceptions at Purdue with the long ball. This was also apparent in the game against JSU. The interception (not a bad interception) in the endzone to Dupre was clearly under thrown. Even Etling's TD pass to Smith was slightly under thrown. After the second quarter Etling seemed to overcompensate on the long ball had a couple/few over throws. Harris has a better long ball than Etling.
2. Etling's short to medium passing is much more accurate than Brandon's.
3. Etling has better command of the offense in terms of getting the play into the huddle and communicating the play to the team. It was nice to see the offense consistently line up at the LoS with 14 seconds left on the play clock. This allowed Etling time enough check with the sidelines and call an audible if the defensive formation indicated a change.
4. Etling finishes plays with more detail. This is very simple QB fundamentals. When Etling hands the ball off to the backs he stays in deliberate play action motion without the ball. This is very important to freeze the safeties and LBs if only for a split second. Harris does the same however Harris is not as sharp and sometimes doesn't finish the QB motion without the ball. This does not help the backs.
5. Etling has superior pocket presence. This make our linemen look and play much better. I think this was obvious.
6. Etling showed better decision making especially in terms of tucking the ball in and running. On one play he did't find anyone open, tucked it and started to run then found a receiver open before he crossed the LoS and delivered the ball for a completion. That is top level decision making on that one play. There were probably 4 to 5 decisions made after the snap on that one play: check, check down, check down, tuck, check then throw.
7. Brandon has a stronger arm.
1. The long ball. Harris appears to have better touch and accuracy with the long ball. Reading the Boilmaker's message boards it's apparent that Etling struggled with interceptions at Purdue with the long ball. This was also apparent in the game against JSU. The interception (not a bad interception) in the endzone to Dupre was clearly under thrown. Even Etling's TD pass to Smith was slightly under thrown. After the second quarter Etling seemed to overcompensate on the long ball had a couple/few over throws. Harris has a better long ball than Etling.
2. Etling's short to medium passing is much more accurate than Brandon's.
3. Etling has better command of the offense in terms of getting the play into the huddle and communicating the play to the team. It was nice to see the offense consistently line up at the LoS with 14 seconds left on the play clock. This allowed Etling time enough check with the sidelines and call an audible if the defensive formation indicated a change.
4. Etling finishes plays with more detail. This is very simple QB fundamentals. When Etling hands the ball off to the backs he stays in deliberate play action motion without the ball. This is very important to freeze the safeties and LBs if only for a split second. Harris does the same however Harris is not as sharp and sometimes doesn't finish the QB motion without the ball. This does not help the backs.
5. Etling has superior pocket presence. This make our linemen look and play much better. I think this was obvious.
6. Etling showed better decision making especially in terms of tucking the ball in and running. On one play he did't find anyone open, tucked it and started to run then found a receiver open before he crossed the LoS and delivered the ball for a completion. That is top level decision making on that one play. There were probably 4 to 5 decisions made after the snap on that one play: check, check down, check down, tuck, check then throw.
7. Brandon has a stronger arm.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:57 am to jp001
Harris is emotionally destroyed. No confidence and clearly depressed/fragile. He's done IMO.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:59 am to LSUfan20005
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Harris is emotionally destroyed. No confidence and clearly depressed/fragile. He's done IMO.
Sadly, this does appear to be the early indication
Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:03 am to LSUfan20005
Harris has gone from being a bit of a cocky freshman brooding on the sidelines when not the starter, to a lost dog with his tail between his legs as a junior. Sad to see really.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:03 am to LSUfan20005
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Harris is emotionally destroyed. No confidence and clearly depressed/fragile. He's done IMO.
He can build himself back up if he puts the blinders on and works hard and focuses on the details of the position. It's also important for the team that he does this. This team still needs him.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:10 am to Penrod
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Harris does not have the cognitive skills to play QB.
This guy might be racist.
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I don't mean he's stupid.
Nice try to not look racist, racist.
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Plenty of stupid guys have played QB very well
Here it comes....
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Terry Bradshaw and Brett Favre for examples.
well played
Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:10 am to GumboPot
quote:Nice evaluation.
GumboPot
Bottom line (in order) imo:
1. Etling has superior pocket presence.
2. Etling has better command of the offense
3. Etling showed better decision making especially in terms of tucking the ball in and running
4. Etling's short to medium passing is much more accurate than Brandon's.
5. Etling finishes plays with more detail.
The decision is night and day obvious
If Les will continue to use Guice and DW when Fournette comes back, and Etling spreads the defense, LSU will be dangerous.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:13 am to Penrod
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No. Harris does not have the cognitive skills to play QB. I don't mean he's stupid. Plenty of stupid guys have played QB very well, Terry Bradshaw and Brett Favre for examples.
Harris is the anti-Jameis Winston.
Smart guy off the field, but has a terrible disposition on the field. The pressure gets to him.
Jameis has the IQ of a dairy cow off the field, but is somehow a QB savant on the field.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:13 am to Putty
If B Harris looks great against our D in practice, should I be upset at our D, or do I just blame BH for his game time yips?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:39 am to TheCaterpillar
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Harris is the anti-Jameis Winston.
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