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ESPN2 College Football Live (Les Miles Comments)

Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Silvermoon_WhereRU
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:06 pm
Les looked like a pro on that panel. Finebaum asked him directly about why he didn't fire Cam Cameron (when discussing the Notre Dame Brian Kelly status and what Kelly should do this off season).....

Les answered directly "we thought Etling would go on to be the starter in 2016 and there would be "maturity" at the QB position." Ultimately didn't happen. Cameron wasn't the problem.

Mack Brown immediately followed him up saying "funny les how once you get better players and productivity, all the sudden everyone says what a great coach you are again." Poor play from a player and the coach is lousy.

Mack Brown also admitted he had personal problems with his wife after the 2009 championship loss to Alabama, losing Muschamp to Florida, and other coaching turn-over. He blamed the 2010 season on his own poor coaching.

They also directed a bunch of questions to Les about players getting scholarships pulled by changes in coaching staffs (UCONN situation currently). He said coaches can't comment on a recruit situation so the whole conversation is one-sided. Recruits may have an understanding with a coach about making grades, if it doesn't happen, the coach can't explain that to the media so you only get left with what the player and their family say publicly.
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:08 pm to
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Les answered directly "we thought Etling would go on to be the starter in 2016 and there would be "maturity" at the QB position." Ultimately didn't happen. Cameron wasn't the problem.


dude is still a liar i see.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:09 pm to
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dude is still a liar i see.


Deceptively honest
Posted by ipodking
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:10 pm to
Never give up Les
Posted by Morecowbell
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:11 pm to
You forgot to add the video of his comments. I got it.

Posted by Silvermoon_WhereRU
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:15 pm to


Actually, he looked like he was dominating the rest of the panel. Apparently tomorrow he will be on ESPN again and there will be a crew at LSU in the war room for live segments. Would be epic if Miles is the interviewer for Oregeron during those segments.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:17 pm to
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Finebaum asked him directly about why he didn't fire Cam Cameron


Fire Cameron at what point? Before the season? After the Auburn game?

Maybe, if they really wanted to paint Les into a corner, they could have asked him why he didn't fire any coach based on performance during his time at LSU. I know I will be corrected if I'm wrong, but, the only firing that I can remember was based on recruiting, or other NCAA violations.
Posted by Gray Tiger
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:19 pm to
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dude is still a liar i see.



Yes and he still eats babies for breakfast.
Posted by emanresu
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:19 pm to
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"we thought Etling would go on to be the starter in 2016 and there would be "maturity" at the QB position."

horseshite. It took us not being able to move the ball at all against Jacksonville State before Les pulled his boy. If he thought Etling would "go on" to be the starter in 2016 he wouldn't have been so goddamn stubborn about keeping Harris in.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:21 pm to
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Les answered directly "we thought Etling would go on to be the starter in 2016 and there would be "maturity" at the QB position." Ultimately didn't happen. Cameron wasn't the problem.


WTF...that is ultimately exactly what happened (and probably what should have happened prior to the first game). At some level coaching was the problem.....seems like we probably fired the guy that was the problem.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:23 pm to
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Fire Cameron at what point? Before the season? After the Auburn game?

Maybe, if they really wanted to paint Les into a corner, they could have asked him why he didn't fire any coach based on performance during his time at LSU. I know I will be corrected if I'm wrong, but, the only firing that I can remember was based on recruiting, or other NCAA violations.


It would be like the Peveto situation where they get rid of the guy but somehow the guy gets back onto the coaching staff.
Posted by Silvermoon_WhereRU
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:27 pm to
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Fire Cameron at what point? Before the season? After the Auburn game?

Maybe, if they really wanted to paint Les into a corner, they could have asked him why he didn't fire any coach based on performance during his time at LSU. I know I will be corrected if I'm wrong, but, the only firing that I can remember was based on recruiting, or other NCAA violations.


The question to him was why didn't Cameron get fired after the 2015 season? Because they were talking about it in terms of Brian Kelly and what changes he should make in the offseason. Luginbill is a ND fan boy and he said it is a talent problem at Notre Dame not a coaching problem.

So Finebaum asked Les about coaching changes in the offseason and specifically why didn't he fire Cameron after 2015. Les pointed out he made a really good hire defensively that offseason with Aranda but didn't think "sweeping changes" were needed. In his opinion it wasn't a Cam Cameron problem but a QB "maturity" problem meaning Brandon Harris didn't put it together.


I disagree, with the coaching changes point you mentioned. He made changes after 2008 with the Malveto disaster. He also moved on from Stud and from Crowton at the right times.

But he clearly should have fired Cameron or forced something different in the offense when you can't score or move the ball with our roster after 3 years. No argument there.
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 1:30 pm
Posted by atltiger6487
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:36 pm to
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Les answered directly "we thought Etling would go on to be the starter in 2016 and there would be "maturity" at the QB position."

uh, then he's admitting Harris wasn't the man for the job, yet he started him against Wisconsin and we had (another) horrific offensive performance. Started him against Jax State and it was another debacle, until Etling came in.

And come on, it's not like Etling was a green newbie - he played two years at Purdue and had been in our system for over a year when last season started. Les and Cam should've seen that Etling was a better option than Harris from the start.
Posted by DEG
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:38 pm to
Cam or no Cam, Les had too much influence in the offense for meaningful change to happen under a new coordinator.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:38 pm to
a start would have been not renewing Cam's contract in the off-season.....
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:38 pm to
ole leslie is trolling us at this point. i will give him props actually.
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:44 pm to
That's bullshite!! Etling was never considered for the starting job under Les. If he was, Harris would not have Left fall camp as the starter.
Posted by 12Pence
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:49 pm to
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Mack Brown also admitted he had personal problems with his wife after the 2009 championship loss to Alabama, losing Muschamp to Florida, and other coaching turn-over.




Texas had Alabama reeling Alabama early in that game until McCoy was knocked out of the game. Even then, it was still a 3 point game with 3 minutes left and Texas had the ball. Texas outplayed their expectations that night with Gilbert leading the way.

Was Mack addressing just that game or the combination of all following that game?
Posted by Silvermoon_WhereRU
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:56 pm to
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Texas had Alabama reeling Alabama early in that game until McCoy was knocked out of the game. Even then, it was still a 3 point game with 3 minutes left and Texas had the ball. Texas outplayed their expectations that night with Gilbert leading the way.

Was Mack addressing just that game or the combination of all following that game?


He was specifically just talking about the off-season and coaching changes. The topic was about Notre Dame and what Kelly should do this offseason. He wasn't talking about the actual game against Alabama, just how he handled the head coaching job as a whole through the Muschamp to Florida move, and other changes. And I'd never heard the personal problems with his wife either. Seemed really brutally honest which is refreshing
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Nuts4LSU
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:58 pm to
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Les answered directly "we thought Etling would go on to be the starter in 2016 and there would be "maturity" at the QB position."


Then why was Harris starting the first two games? And Harris was a junior in his second year as a starter. How much "maturity" do we need?
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 1:59 pm
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