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re: ESPN Power 5 offensive efficiency last 3 years
Posted on 7/28/16 at 5:04 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 7/28/16 at 5:04 pm to Rickdaddy4188
LSU had a decent offense last year. Harris was still young and was injured the last few games. Overall against the sec the stats may be a bit quirky because we dominated Auburn and South Carolina, but got manhandled against Arkie, and Bama. We got a lot of yards against Ole Miss but that is somewhat misleading because of the score. But I don't care about the last three years. This year is all that matters.
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Posted on 7/28/16 at 5:24 pm to trooploop
Averages of 23 and 24 are not good enough for LSU. You don't know that by now. Better get up in top 5, 3 would be better. Get with the program man!!
Posted on 7/28/16 at 5:36 pm to trooploop
The problem with this...LSU's stats for 9/12 games are good to great.
Those other 3 games are the problem.
Those other 3 games are the problem.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 5:45 pm to Howyouluhdat
"against the SEC West"
Really? We have LSU football stats, we have SEC stats, and now we need West stats? What will you want next to get the whole picture? Stats for afternoon games on CBS or maybe stats for 6 p m games on ESPN.
75% of LSU SEC stats come from west games and almost 90% come from west team and Florida. So, what's the big deal?
Really? We have LSU football stats, we have SEC stats, and now we need West stats? What will you want next to get the whole picture? Stats for afternoon games on CBS or maybe stats for 6 p m games on ESPN.
75% of LSU SEC stats come from west games and almost 90% come from west team and Florida. So, what's the big deal?
Posted on 7/28/16 at 7:21 pm to SportTiger1
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The problem with this...LSU's stats for 9/12 games are good to great.
Those other 3 games are the problem.
That isnt just a lsu problem.
When an offense plays a better defense than usual, they tend to be less productive. Especially when those better defense match up well against your offensive strengths.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 7:51 pm to Rickdaddy4188
To be fair. Your whole post seems to be an excuse. LSU has more talent than almost anybody not named Bama. If Miles can't get it done with this talent, it would be a tough pill to swallow.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 8:17 pm to MusicMaster
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Your whole post seems to be an excuse
Its not an excuse. Offenses dont play well when they play a defense that is elite against their offensive strengths.
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LSU has more talent than almost anybody not named Bama
This just isnt true. There are multiple programs that recruit just as well as lsu.
The image below is the sec recruiting rankings for the last 4 years. As you can see, the gap between bama and lsu is bigger than the gap between lsu and ole miss.
This post was edited on 7/28/16 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:48 am to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
"eyeball tests" are for idiots and excuse makers that can't deal with or don't have any ability to use facts.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:58 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Eyeball test says something different than info these stats are displaying.
The eyetest is dumb because its rarely used with an unbiased view.
If we don't fumble on the goalline against Bama in 2013 I think we win that game. If we don't get stuffed at the 1 on 4th down against OM last year who knows how that game turns out?
Part of our problem the past few years has been an inability to recover from big momentum shifts in our opponents' favor.
Up until that fumble against Bama in 13 we were moving the ball at will. That play completely redirected the trajectory of that game. Likewise for the 4th down play against OM.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 5:07 am to GetmorewithLes
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Another issue is that in close games the difference can simply be who made two or three critical plays that never show up in the average stats.
Like JC Copeland's fumble in 13 and our failure to convert on the goal line against OM last year.
I know we lost those games by a combined 6 touchdowns but I can't help but feel like we kind of quit after those two respective plays. I think if we take the momentum on those two plays the games play out much differently. No way to know if we'd have won but we certainly wouldn't have been blown out like we were.
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 5:08 am
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:36 am to Rickdaddy4188
" this just isn't true"
No matter how many times that statement gets debunked, it continues to be thrown out as fact. I don't know how anyone can follow LSU football and follow the NFL draft and make the statement that LSU is the most talented team out there not named Bama.
I am not going to do the research, but off memory, I don't recall the NFL draft to be all that special for LSU in the last 2 to 3 years to back up the "most talented team not named Bama" claims.
No matter how many times that statement gets debunked, it continues to be thrown out as fact. I don't know how anyone can follow LSU football and follow the NFL draft and make the statement that LSU is the most talented team out there not named Bama.
I am not going to do the research, but off memory, I don't recall the NFL draft to be all that special for LSU in the last 2 to 3 years to back up the "most talented team not named Bama" claims.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:40 am to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
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Eyeball test says something different than info these stats are displaying.
Stats are great when they back up a agenda!!!
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the Rant
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:47 am to trooploop
Can you back all data with the exception of last 4 games in the seasons? Good data, but I would like to see this data for comparison.
What I see is a surrender issue once the loss to Alabama occurs.
What I see is a surrender issue once the loss to Alabama occurs.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:51 am to Lonnie4LSU
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No matter how many times that statement gets debunked, it continues to be thrown out as fact. I don't know how anyone can follow LSU football and follow the NFL draft and make the statement that LSU is the most talented team out there not named Bama.
I am not going to do the research, but off memory, I don't recall the NFL draft to be all that special for LSU in the last 2 to 3 years to back up the "most talented team not named Bama" claims.
Exaclty. Bama's 2016 draft class is almost as big as lsu's 2015 and 2016 draft class combine.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 11:06 am to trooploop
Great stat.
The Patriots went 18-1 a few years ago. that 1 was kind of an important one.
we were probably top 10 if you take out the Alabama/Ole Piss/Arkansas games the last 3 years (well not Arkansas from 2 years ago) but you get the point.
We were top 10 in 90% of our games, and probably in the 80-100 range for the games that mattered most, so who gives a shite about that stat.
The Patriots went 18-1 a few years ago. that 1 was kind of an important one.
we were probably top 10 if you take out the Alabama/Ole Piss/Arkansas games the last 3 years (well not Arkansas from 2 years ago) but you get the point.
We were top 10 in 90% of our games, and probably in the 80-100 range for the games that mattered most, so who gives a shite about that stat.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 11:10 am to TGFN57
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eyeball tests" are for idiots and excuse makers that can't deal with or don't have any ability to use facts.
Exactly. If you dont have a leg to stand in a debate just use the ol eyetest.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 11:14 am to TeddyPadillac
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We were top 10 in 90% of our games, and probably in the 80-100 range for the games that mattered most, so who gives a shite about that stat.
Thats not just a lsu problem. Offenses arent as productive when they play defenses that are equipped to stop your strength.
Did you see lsu hold texas tech to their 2nd lowest total all year? I guess texas tech's offense was shite because of those 2 games.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 11:28 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Did you see lsu hold texas tech to their 2nd lowest total all year? I guess texas tech's offense was shite because of those 2 games.
Their team was shite.
I don't care about how our offense or defense performs stats wise. Just win the game. No one expects us to score 30 on Bama and put up 500 yards of offense. I don't care what the stat line is, i just want to win. No one expects us to hold them to 200 yards of offense either. We expect to win, whichever way possible.
Texas Tech has had a great offense the last few years, yet they aren't a good team and lose at least 3 or 4 games every year, so who cares if their offensive stats are great.
Do you really want to hang your hat on and say "hey our offense has been pretty darn good the last few years despite what people think" but we still lose 3 games every year and play in bowls like the Music City Bowl.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 11:40 am to TeddyPadillac
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Do you really want to hang your hat on and say "hey our offense has been pretty darn good the last few years despite what people think" but we still lose 3 games every year and play in bowls like the Music City Bowl.
Im hanging my hat on the fact that our 2015 offense was productive. At no point was i talking about anything else. This thread is about offense specifically.not about wins and losses. No one would rather have the #1 offense in cfb over winning the sec. At no point did anyone say that.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 11:41 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Thats not just a lsu problem. Offenses arent as productive when they play defenses that are equipped to stop your strength.
Lol so you're just supposed to go into that game waving a white flag?? Let's just roll over and die because we know this team is equipped to stop our strengths. It's called attacking the defenses weaknesses and adapting and being unpredictable.
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