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re: Ed O is going to get 4yrs, just like any other coach, Chill Out!
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:46 am to PUB
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:46 am to PUB
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Like Notre Dame, LSU football is living off the reputation of past accomplishments.
Unlike Notre Dame, LSU had more players on opening day NFL rosters than anyone. It's not reputation alone - the talent has always been here. It's the shitty coaching / decision making that has held us back.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 8:47 am
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:48 am to Jeaux Cool
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Take off the purple and gold glasses, baw. This is easily a 4 loss team with how they're playing.
If we play like we did last Saturday we are a 4 loss team, I never said I disagreed. I'm just saying it's early in the season, and we still have a couple more tune-up games. This thread is to try and quiet all the bullshite about Ed O being on the hot seat already. Let the man get at least 2 frickin recruiting classes into the system before trying kick him to the curb.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:53 am to lowhound
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What's to blame him for? Because we are thin now after the cull? What he have to do with Maea Teuhema being on the roster to begin with, just to trim some dead weight when he had the power to do so?
We lost 6 scholarship offensive linemen after he became head coach, and not all of them were discipline issues. Yet he's not to blame for any of it, but he gets all of the credit for signing a few defensive linemen. Two of which were signed in the 2016 class.
The mental gymnastics you're performing are mind boggling.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 8:55 am
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:00 am to RB10
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We lost 6 scholarship offensive linemen after he became head coach, and not all of them were discipline issues. Yet he's not to blame for any of it, but he gets all of the credit for signing a few defensive linemen. Two of which were signed in the 2016 class.
Like I said, why is Ed O to blame for having 6 O-lineman on the roster that either A) didn't want to be here B) didn't have the talent to see the field or C) were a discipline and locker room problem? I'm glad he let them go or told them to leave if they didn't want or need to be in our locker room. The recruiting has been a lot different since he's been in charge. I expect him to get more talented big men on the roster.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:03 am to lowhound
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If we play like we did last Saturday we are a 4 loss team, I never said I disagreed. I'm just saying it's early in the season, and we still have a couple more tune-up games. This thread is to try and quiet all the bullshite about Ed O being on the hot seat already.
Ogeron is not going anywhere because LSU is not paying 3 head coaches for one football team (2 of them wouldn't actually be coaching.) So no, realistically he's not on any "hot seat".
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Let the man get at least 2 frickin recruiting classes into the system before trying kick him to the curb.
Sorry, but this is the part that is stupid. I would agree if this were year 1 of an entirely different staff. We aren't. Ogeron has been on the staff for 3 years. He was hired primarily, if not exclusively, for his recruiting prowess. Most other coaches have been here more than just one year (Grimes, Raymond, Aranda, Ensminger) as well as LSU's GM. So if there is a "lack of talent" it is largely due to the efforts of the guys already on staff. So the solution is to allow he and the guys who are responsible for the current "lack of talent" bring in better players? If they are the ones responsible for the "lack of talent", then why would anyone think they are the guys who could fix the problem they created?
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:04 am to lowhound
If you want to cheer him on for "culling" the roster then stop bitching about the depth and accept the consequences
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I asked this on the last page, but what did he do in recruiting to address all of these line issues he allegedly inherited?
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The recruiting has been a lot different since he's been in charge.
I asked this on the last page, but what did he do in recruiting to address all of these line issues he allegedly inherited?
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 9:07 am
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:07 am to lowhound
We'll be a complete dumpster fire if he really gets 4 years.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:20 am to TaderSalad
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And Alleva will go find the most washed up coach and offer him a 12 year with $88million buyout.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:35 am to lowhound
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Like I said, why is Ed O to blame for having 6 O-lineman on the roster that either A) didn't want to be here didn't have the talent to see the field or C) were a discipline and locker room problem
They had no problems here before he was the coach.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:40 am to lowhound
He'll get at least 2.... but if he's .500 or worse in the SEC the next two he's gone.... period.
If we were going to be OK with 8-4, 9-3 then we should have just kept Miles.
If we were going to be OK with 8-4, 9-3 then we should have just kept Miles.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:46 am to lowhound
Well put my friend! All the O bashers need to shut the frick up & sit down. As one of our fellow posters said, " Saban left Miles a Ferrari, Miles left O a Yugo "
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:05 am to lowhound
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You can't hang Ed O because of Miles' recruiting and coaching blunders of the past
This is such bullshite.
Miles' recruiting blunders? Pretty sure we always managed to be stacked with talent whenever Miles is here. Look at last year's roster. This year's team isn't as stacked, sure, but we also ran off a bunch of players.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:08 am to lowhound
Charlie Strong got only 3 years at Texas. If O is failing, then 3 years is enough, we don't need to give him the fourth year.
And if the record for the first two years is really bad, I can see firing him after 2 years.
But he'll get at least 2 years, and probably 3-4.
And if the record for the first two years is really bad, I can see firing him after 2 years.
But he'll get at least 2 years, and probably 3-4.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:15 am to atltiger6487
All I keep reading from the rantards is a bunch of "IF's". Charlie Strong also barely kept Texas bowl eligible. Let the season play out. It's only been 3 games. Before last Saturday, everyone was on cloud nine with the way our defense and offense have been playing. Let the wind change slightly on the weather vane and "poof", there goes the fair weather fans.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 10:18 am
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:15 am to BR_raised87
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As one of our fellow posters said, " Saban left Miles a Ferrari, Miles left O a Yugo "
What fricking idiot said that shite?
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:17 am to atltiger6487
I'm worries O's pr team and his legion of blind Louisiana coach first and above all else supporters will make him really hard to get rid of if he consistently goes 8-4/7-5.
Which is absurd, but you're seeing it already. His supporters are already basically giving him a pass on his first two years. No one but Ed Orgeron, the hero of the swamp people, would be able to follow up our consistent 9 wins a year coach with 7 wins and have people excuse him for it
Which is absurd, but you're seeing it already. His supporters are already basically giving him a pass on his first two years. No one but Ed Orgeron, the hero of the swamp people, would be able to follow up our consistent 9 wins a year coach with 7 wins and have people excuse him for it
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:18 am to tigerfan88
You fire a coach after 2 years, just after we fired our most successful coach, and LSU will definitely go the way of Nebraska. Nobody would want to come coach a team for you assholes, no matter what you paid them.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 10:20 am
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:21 am to lowhound
coach o went winless in the sec in his third year at ole miss. i am expecting similar results if we let him stick around too long.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:24 am to lowhound
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Let the man get at least 2 frickin recruiting classes into the system before trying kick him to the curb.
but this wasn't a rebuilding project! LSU had top recruiting classes under Miles for years.
And O was Miles' recruiting coordinator the last couple years, so if there's any gripe with recent recruits, O gets a large part of that blame.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:25 am to BayouBengals03
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This is such bullshite.
Miles' recruiting blunders? Pretty sure we always managed to be stacked with talent whenever Miles is here. Look at last year's roster. This year's team isn't as stacked, sure, but we also ran off a bunch of players.
You serious Clark? Yes, we've been staked at WR, RB, and defensive backs. We've been looking for a decent DT for at least 5 years. The fact that LaCouture starts and plays the whole game for the past 4 years ought to tell you something. Same goes for Gilmore. What other head coach would put a 6-7 Tackle playing center the past years? Miles has made pour recruiting decisions for years. Maybe you can also blame Frank Wilson and our OLine coach for that as well.
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