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re: Ed O is going to get 4yrs, just like any other coach, Chill Out!
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:26 am to lowhound
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:26 am to lowhound
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ou can't hang Ed O because of Miles' recruiting and coaching blunders of the past
So all we ever heard was Miles won only on talent, now we say he left no talent for O. Which is the definitive answer again?
O owns this mess. No one else.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:26 am to lowhound
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I think we can win every other game except Bama, and I wouldn't count us out on that one totally.
What, pray tell, makes you think this team has an even remote chance of beating Bama?
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:26 am to GeauxTigerTM
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O is not stepping into some major rebuilding year or program in shambles. Everyone seemed to be in agreement that the issue wasn't players, it was coaching. Isn't that what we were told as things picked up as soon as Miles cleared his office?
You really have a short memory then. Just before the recruiting class was signed, everyone was up in arms about the depth of our D-line and LB's and the quality of our O-line. We just don't have the horses right now at thin positions, and the horses we have are freshmen. This was glaringly obvious without Lawrence, Alexander, Herron, and Shelvin playing in this game.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:27 am to lowhound
No - thought the entire process going back to the end of the 2015 season was a freaking nightmare of a joke. Imagine "King" deciding at halftime of the AtM game that Miles has to stay then Alleva allowing Miles to keep Cameron on the payroll.
Considering LSU had over a full year to decide on a new head, the process was a complete farce and fraud. Everything that I needed to see was right in our faces with the pregame and performance of the FL game. Orgeron has team that was undisciplined and out of control last season and it is even worse this year.
Considering LSU had over a full year to decide on a new head, the process was a complete farce and fraud. Everything that I needed to see was right in our faces with the pregame and performance of the FL game. Orgeron has team that was undisciplined and out of control last season and it is even worse this year.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:29 am to lowhound
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depth of our D-line
Orgeron's hands are clean of this somehow?
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quality of our O-line
This is a direct result of losing 6 offensive linemen in one offseason. I'm guessing you will blame Miles for that too?
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 8:31 am
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:30 am to lowhound
Yes. He will and by that time LSU football will have disappeared down the memory hole.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:31 am to jonboy
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I think we can win every other game except Bama, and I wouldn't count us out on that one totally.
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What, pray tell, makes you think this team has an even remote chance of beating Bama?
Because it's football and that game is a long way away. None of us know or not if that Miss State game was a true measuring stick or just something fluke. One thing is for sure, we will find out soon enough!
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:31 am to lowhound
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He's going to be around for a few more years minimum, so get behind this team or GTFO!
So you are only a fan if you love O and support the administration in the shitty process that brought us this coach. I love LSU no less than you, but see it differently. I have nothing personally against O, other than the fact that he was (is) a poor choice.
No way he gets 4 years if these results continue.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:32 am to lowhound
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Just before the recruiting class was signed, everyone was up in arms about the depth of our D-line and LB's and the quality of our O-line.
What did Orgeron do to address this besides sign the same offensive and defensive linemen that were already committed when Miles was fired, then lose five more offensive linemen on top of that?
As a follow up, with our DL depth so paper thin why did we not bring every available scholarship defensive lineman to Starkville?
As a bonus, can you tell me why some of the most hardcore Orgeron supporters were telling us all Summer how much better our DL depth was already in the short time O had been in charge of the position?
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:33 am to LNCHBOX
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O owns this mess. No one else.
O owned up to this loss. I'm not disputing that at all. But he wasn't here when the slide began. He's just trying to pump the brakes and get this bitch headed back uphill. Do you really think that we can win it all playing 20+ true freshmen thus far? Yeah we have Guice and a senior QB, but our O-line and front 7 suck right now. That's not a good recipe for success in the SEC.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:35 am to lowhound
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You really have a short memory then. Just before the recruiting class was signed, everyone was up in arms about the depth of our D-line and LB's and the quality of our O-line. We just don't have the horses right now at thin positions, and the horses we have are freshmen. This was glaringly obvious without Lawrence, Alexander, Herron, and Shelvin playing in this game.
So the program fell apart in the off-season? Remember when players would act the arse in the off-season and Miles would boot them...pretty sure he was to blame for not controlling them, right? Coach not to blame today for all the players suspensions that cost depth?
The lengths some people will go through to square the circle here.
LSU hired a man that literally no one else in the country was offering a head coaching job to. Certainly no Power 5 program. There was no bidding war, no back and forth... It's astounding that we are in the position we are in, but in almost all cases you get what you pay for.
And I fear we'll be paying for this for years to come.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:37 am to RB10
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depth of our D-line
Orgeron's hands are clean of this somehow?
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quality of our O-line
This is a direct result of losing 6 offensive linemen in one offseason. I'm guessing you will blame Miles for that too?
Ed O is probably the only reason we have any depth on the D-line signing Lawrence, Alexander, Shelvin, and Chaisson. So we had 6 bags of shite on the roster at O-line that needed culling out, blame that on our ex-guard head coach and our current O-line coach who surely didn't have much of an eye for talent.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:38 am to lowhound
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Ed O is probably the only reason we have any depth on the D-line signing Lawrence, Alexander, Shelvin, and Chaisson
So Orgeron gets all the credit for this.
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So we had 6 bags of shite on the roster at O-line that needed culling out, blame that on our ex-guard head coach and our current O-line coach who surely didn't have much of an eye for talent.
And none of the blame for this.
You're out of your fricking mind.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:39 am to lowhound
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But he wasn't here when the slide began. He's just trying to pump the brakes and get this bitch headed back uphill. Do you really think that we can win it all playing 20+ true freshmen thus far? Yeah we have Guice and a senior QB, but our O-line and front 7 suck right now. That's not a good recipe for success in the SEC.
The intellectual dishonesty is breathtaking.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:39 am to Bottom9
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Well damn, his successor is going to have a HELL of a rebuilding job.
And Alleva will go find the most washed up coach and offer him a 12 year with $88million buyout.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:43 am to lowhound
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blame that on our ex-guard head coach and our current O-line coach who surely didn't have much of an eye for talent.
So why did Ed keep such an incompetent OL coach?
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:43 am to lowhound
quote:Take off the purple and gold glasses, baw. This is easily a 4 loss team with how they're playing.
I think we can win every other game except Bama, and I wouldn't count us out on that one totally.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:43 am to RB10
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So we had 6 bags of shite on the roster at O-line that needed culling out, blame that on our ex-guard head coach and our current O-line coach who surely didn't have much of an eye for talent.
And none of the blame for this.
What's to blame him for? Because we are thin now after the cull? What he have to do with Maea Teuhema being on the roster to begin with, just to trim some dead weight when he had the power to do so?
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:44 am to GeauxTigerTM
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So why did Ed keep such an incompetent OL coach?
After all the attrition this offseason, I'm pretty sure our OL coach is on borrowed time.
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