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re: Did LSU learn any spread offense in offseason?
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:20 am to tarzana
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:20 am to tarzana
LSU doesn't need to learn a spread offense. There is nothing wrong with LSU's philosophy. The problem is the design, play calling, and execution of the philosophy. Bama just won a NC with LSU's power philosophy with just more formations, presnap shifts and motions, and smarter play calling.
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Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:32 am to tarzana
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Tell that to the hoards of opposing coaches who have successfully used the spread against LSU in recent years.
LSU's problem has not been spread teams the last couple of years. LSU hasn't been able to stop running teams.
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I watched a YouTube archive of LSU vs. TROY STATE a couple of nights ago, and a mediocre Troy team made the LSU defense look silly.
You reference a game from 2008 with probably the worst defense in the Miles era to prove your point? Since you brought it up total yards for Troy was 380 which isn't exactly lighting it up. Their QB was 34-72 less than 50 percent and in the second half LSU figured them out and only allowed 7 and 0 after 11 minutes left in the 3rd quarter.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:33 am to CAT
We dont need the spread. We need to execute the plays we run. You people think we are predictable yet want us to run the spread. You do realize that lsu runs plays out of more formations than every spread team right?
Those great oregon offenses ran the same exact play 50% of the time.
Im all for implementing some spread concept but at its core the spread is the size of the players you have at the h and y positions and where you line them up.
Those great oregon offenses ran the same exact play 50% of the time.
Im all for implementing some spread concept but at its core the spread is the size of the players you have at the h and y positions and where you line them up.
This post was edited on 8/18/16 at 10:45 am
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:34 am to cforester821
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The answer is not the spread. The answer is smarter play calling and better QB coaching.
Spot the frick on. We also need better talent evaluation at the qb position.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:38 am to Nix to Twillie
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time, though. So it automatically makes it good. Expecting any better than 62% is just shitting on Miles. Right RickyDaddy
Yeah im so ok with that that i want Miles gone if doesnt win the west this year. Do you even pay attention?
This post was edited on 8/18/16 at 10:45 am
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:39 am to tiggerthetooth
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He's on Gerry DiNardo level since 2012. There are college football teams that rise from mediocre to elite status in the time frame since 2012.
What? He is on Saban's level. Did you just forget that saban lost a ton of games at lsu?
2000-4 losses( including uab)
2001 -3 losses
2002-5 losses
2003-1 loss
2004- 3 losses
2011-1 loss
2012-2 losses
2013-3 losses
2014 5 losses
2015-3 losses
ETA: and Saban's tenure was in a sec era where 3 conf losses wins you the west. Saban at lsu never once faced a sec team that even played in the title game. While Miles is coaching in the most dominant era of sec football ever
This post was edited on 8/18/16 at 11:41 am
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:42 am to tiggerthetooth
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first coach to lose to Miss St. since 2000 (only loss to Moo St. in 15 years of LSU football).
You mustve really been hard on saban when he was here. He lost to uab.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:42 am to tiggerthetooth
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There are college football teams that rise from mediocre to elite status in the time frame since 2012.
Please name them. Serious I just want to know who you think these teams are.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:43 am to geauxtigers33
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Please name them. Serious I just want to know who you think these teams are.
He cant because there are none. Baylor would be the closest thing and they are about to go back to being crap without Briles.
This post was edited on 8/18/16 at 10:44 am
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:47 am to CAT
Did LSU learn any spread offense in offseason?
They did but they won't use it just to piss you off!
They did but they won't use it just to piss you off!
Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:09 am to tarzana
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Tell that to the hoards of opposing coaches who have successfully used the spread against LSU in recent years. I watched a YouTube archive of LSU vs. TROY STATE a couple of nights ago, and a mediocre Troy team made the LSU defense look silly.
Good points I look at all of the coaches that have won nation championships running the spread and then I remember how painful it was when LSU LOST to Troy that year.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:40 am to Gray Tiger
we're not going, of course, to "THE spread" offense, but we should see more shotgun, more 3 and 4 WR sets, more misdirection, more passing on 1st down especially from the shotgun, more passes to the WR's, RB's and TE's, more Fournette from the shotgun in single back sets, more pass run options for Harris. For one thing trying to back defenses out the box, spreading the defense out and giving them more of the field that they have to defend thus also giving Fournette more room to run.
You could call it more of the same Pro style if you want or spread elements if you want or say it is already in the playbook or say it is what we always have been doing. Doesn't matter.
We'll be more open on offense, less predictable even if you think we are already very unpredictable. We'll do a better job of getting more people involved in the offense and getting them in space,. Even if that is what you think we already do.
That's what Miles and Cam were trying to observe and learn more about this offseason. It's what they were trying to implement to some extent last season. We'll see it this season or we will end up in the middle of the SEC west again and Miles/Cam will be gone.
You could call it more of the same Pro style if you want or spread elements if you want or say it is already in the playbook or say it is what we always have been doing. Doesn't matter.
We'll be more open on offense, less predictable even if you think we are already very unpredictable. We'll do a better job of getting more people involved in the offense and getting them in space,. Even if that is what you think we already do.
That's what Miles and Cam were trying to observe and learn more about this offseason. It's what they were trying to implement to some extent last season. We'll see it this season or we will end up in the middle of the SEC west again and Miles/Cam will be gone.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 12:28 pm to CAT
Yes, there's an extra foot between LF7 and JD Moore.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 12:35 pm to CAT
LSU tight ends adding bulk
That article is a good indicator. Les is fattening his tight ends for more blocking, not running or receiving. Our FB is the teams #1 asset. If the FB goes down, goodbye LSU offense.
That article is a good indicator. Les is fattening his tight ends for more blocking, not running or receiving. Our FB is the teams #1 asset. If the FB goes down, goodbye LSU offense.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 12:35 pm to CAT
Secret playbook 
Posted on 8/18/16 at 12:41 pm to tarzana
quote:Why?
I watched a YouTube archive of LSU vs. TROY STATE a couple of nights ago
Posted on 8/18/16 at 12:51 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Our FB is the teams #1 asset. If the FB goes down, goodbye LSU offense.
You have no clue what youre talking.
You realky think it was losing Moore last year that stalled our offense or that the qb had a sports hernia and had trouble connecting in short and intermediate passes?
Posted on 8/18/16 at 1:03 pm to tiggerthetooth
I called it
This board has shifted back to loving Miles as the offseason progressed
I like the moves made this offseason but folks need to realize we have to spread he ball out to beat Alabama. It just has to happen.
May not need to go full spread, all the time. But LSU has to be able to line up all those receivers and force teams to honor the passing game
This board has shifted back to loving Miles as the offseason progressed
I like the moves made this offseason but folks need to realize we have to spread he ball out to beat Alabama. It just has to happen.
May not need to go full spread, all the time. But LSU has to be able to line up all those receivers and force teams to honor the passing game
Posted on 8/18/16 at 1:12 pm to CAT
Some spread wouldn't hurt.
But, then again, Les Miles.
But, then again, Les Miles.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 1:25 pm to Spankum
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we are a smash-mouthed running football team and that is not going to change.
We then, at the very least, need to evolve.
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