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Did Les handle comments about gay player well?

Posted on 2/10/14 at 8:39 am
Posted by YellowShoe
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2006
1381 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 8:39 am
Last April (2013), Alfred Blue commented about possibility of a gay player in the locker room
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Football is supposed to be this violent sport—this aggressive sport that grown men are supposed to play. Ain’t no little boys out here between them lines. So if you gay, we look at you as a sissy. You know? Like, how you going to say you can do what we do and you want a man?

Les addressed the manner in a typical Les manner. Used a lot of words to traipse the minefield of an issue.
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I would handle it as what’s important and what’s best for the team. I would treat him, and expect his teammates to treat him, in an appropriate and straightforward manner. ... It would have to be something that I took to an office and kind of describe how I saw locker rooms and how I saw travel and how I saw staying in hotel rooms and how I saw those things. If that’s not an issue, I think things could be resolved.

Was this the best Les could have done given the political and cultural sensitivities of his audience?

The person who may have done the best job in addressing the issue may have been Trai Turner.
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College football is a business and you have to conduct yourself in a manner where you respect everyone you deal with. I feel like if the person is gay, he must still conduct himself in the manner of a football player, and if a person isn’t gay, he must still look at the person who views himself as gay, or says he is gay, as his teammate.

As did James Hairston.
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I believe that this is an important issue, one that does need to come to the forefront, that does need to be talked about. But I think the main thing is people can learn as fans, as athletes, as just people in general, just respect one another and it ends at that.

Hope LSU fans acquit themselves well, if LSU football team ever needs to address a player being gay.
Posted by bherm1988
Shreveport, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
2755 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 8:43 am to
Yes
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98111 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 8:45 am to
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if LSU football team ever needs to address a player being gay.


with 85 scholly players and a few dozen walkons, it's statistically probable that there are around 1-5 gay players, depending on whose research you accept. LSU fans will have to deal with it at some point. Like you, I hope LSU fans handle it well, but knowing LSU fans, I'm not real confident that they will.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 8:48 am to
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Les

Handled it fine
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Trai Turner

Handled it fine
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James Hairston

Handled it very well
quote:

Alfred Blue

Sounds like someone from Boutte. It is what it is.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32453 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 8:53 am to
Alfred Blue sounds like a backwoods idiot from small town Louisiana. We all grew up with them.

Everyone else including Les handled it quite well.
Posted by mooseknuckle
Hill country
Member since Aug 2006
4435 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:01 am to
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Alfred Blue sounds like a backwoods idiot from small town Louisiana. We all grew up with them. Everyone else including Les handled it quite well.


If you're going to force people to accept gays, then you're also forced to accept "backwoods idiots". Also, you shouldn't use derogatory terms for blue. What happens when you use derogatory names for gays, black people, little people, poor people, mentally challenged etc? Exactly. See where this will never end?
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 9:05 am
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29360 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:04 am to
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Alfred Blue sounds like a backwoods idiot from small town Louisiana.

Hey dude, I'm from that same small town.













But yeah, that was a terribly dumb statement on his part. I'm sure his teachers at Hahnville were very proud.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22495 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:11 am to
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you shouldn't use derogatory terms for blue. What happens when you use derogatory names for gays, black people, little people, poor people, mentally challenged etc? Exactly. See where this will never end?
Posted by massiveattack
CharLIT/Chapel Chill
Member since Oct 2010
11551 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:12 am to
There were pages and pages of people supporting Blue in the thread on his comments earlier this year
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:17 am to
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There were pages and pages of people supporting Blue in the thread on his comments earlier this year

It's sad. I would never "defend" what he said, but I can defend the person by just writing it off as ignorance. He doesn't seem like a bad guy, so to speak.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:18 am to
who cares?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58088 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:23 am to
Who cares
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39547 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:27 am to
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Like you, I hope LSU fans handle it well, but knowing LSU fans, I'm not real confident that they will.




If the kid is All-SEC I doubt there would be many problems.

If the kid gets into Spencer Ware/Tyrann Mathieu type of trouble the jokes about his homosexuality would be endless

People just need an excuse to ridicule, and oddly enough, to praise as well
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 9:28 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56330 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:30 am to
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Was this the best Les could have done given the political and cultural sensitivities of his audience?



who cares?
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17106 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:33 am to
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But yeah, that was a terribly dumb statement on his part. I'm sure his teachers at Hahnville were very proud.


heyyyyy

< HHS grad (way before Blue though)
Posted by el gato
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2402 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:36 am to
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who cares?


This.

I can only speak for myself, but I have no need or desire to know about the sex lives of LSU athletes. I don't care if someone is pounding a female cheerleader or, pardon the pun, Joe Blow from Splash. Its all best kept in the locker room.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:38 am to
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< HHS grad (way before Blue though)


1988...you?
Posted by YellowShoe
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2006
1381 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:42 am to
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who cares?

You should. Les as a coach is a 'leader of men'. We provide these players with some advantages
- training to be a leader on the field
- ability to speak in public (via interviews)
- exposure
If the players follow their coach to a conclusion that is regressive, would you not be concerned.

A few days ago, I heard Ryan Theriot comment about a local issue of City of St. George (I oppose the move). Ryan has the platform because he was a public figure thanks to LSU baseball in part. He has been influenced in part by Skip. So, you should be concerned about how people in positions of influence conduct, explain their beliefs.

Your avatar pic is funny.

You do know some believe that gay can be cured with prayer and beatings. Such beliefs will continue if the influencers believe the same.

With Saban's stature and success at Bama, his influence may not be limited to just the football program. His audience may be Bama community at large. Any successful coach is an influencer. Les is a successful coach too. He has influence with people.

Who cares? You should.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58088 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:47 am to
Les is there to coach football. I don't need to hear neither he nor the players discussing stuff like this. I don't want to know about people's choices in their sex lives and I don't want Les and players getting into whatever flavor of the day media story happens to be.
Posted by eelsuee
2B+!2B
Member since Oct 2004
4502 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:50 am to
I would wager that Blue's comments better represent the feeling of most of the team than Hairston's.
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