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Dennis Dodd laying down some truth and putting heat on the AD
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:55 am
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:55 am
So as much as I want it to end today we cant fire O due to the buyout. He said the buyout is inexcusable and that LSU must fire the AD now. Says we have no vision and we should be able to get a high profile AD who actually has vision. He said Alleva has a terrible hiring record and should be let go now. Referenced Nebraska doing it
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:57 am to Jaydeaux
LSU can afford the buyout if it really wants to. That's just another feeble excuse for keeping a good ole boy coach who is going to decimate the program.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:57 am to Jaydeaux
Fire Alleva now
Put up interim ad
Hire new one then fire O in January
Put up interim ad
Hire new one then fire O in January
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:00 am to Jaydeaux
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we cant fire O due to the buyout.
The buyout isn't the issue. The money is there. It's the optics of paying roughly 20 million to two guys to NOT coach. In addition to the money you'd have to spend to buyout whoever else you let go, and to bring on a new staff. Anyone who says we don't have the money is flat out wrong.
Charlie Weis 2.0
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:07 am to sweetwaterbilly
Yes, i just didnt want to make the post too long. Based on what youre saying we dont fire O. The national news is all over Alleva is my point.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:12 am to DmitriKaramazov
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LSU can afford the buyout if it really wants to. That's just another feeble excuse for keeping a good ole boy coach who is going to decimate the program.
Yep. At today's pace, LSU stands to lose a buttload more than $12M if it doesnt derail this freight train of suck.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:13 am to sweetwaterbilly
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The buyout isn't the issue. The money is there. It's the optics of paying roughly 20 million to two guys to NOT coach. In addition to the money you'd have to spend to buyout whoever else you let go, and to bring on a new staff. Anyone who says we don't have the money is flat out wrong.
Then FIRE EVERYONE WHO CREATED THESE OPTICS! Common sense told anyone with a brain that Ed O was a shite hire. The sheer stupidity of giving him a $12m buyout and the board to approve it without question shows that we need to clean house.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:15 am to DmitriKaramazov
LoL.... so you want to fire the coach and pay him approximately 9 mill and still TRUST the AD whose fricked up every hire he has ever made in EVERY SPORT?.... yea, makes sense to me.... NOT.... 
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 9:16 am
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:16 am to Jaydeaux
The Key to the whole thing is Alleva must go now! Hire a new AD. We may have to live with O another year, but we don't Alleva.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:16 am to LosLobos111
Is F king the only person that can fire Alleva
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:17 am to phideauxlsu
YES... YOU get it.... 
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:17 am to wryder1
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The sheer stupidity of giving him a $12m buyout and the board to approve it without question shows that we need to clean house.
That's the thing that bugs me the most. It's one thing to hire the guy in the first place, but then Alleva throws the fricking bank at him for no reason. Odom at Mizzou is making like 800k and his buyout is like 1mil IIRC. That's how it's done when you don't have a proven commodity. They pay Alleva entirely too much money for him to be this much of a fricking moron.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:23 am to sweetwaterbilly
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The money is there. It's the optics of paying roughly 20 million to two guys to NOT coach.
No doubt about it...it's looks fricking idiotic.
But wasn't optics to blame for why Miles was not let go in 2015? What will the optics be of our program having the wheels fly off in every direction as LSU slams head first into the wall of national media humiliation...as recruits turn away, as fans turn away, and the money needed to fund the program dwindles...?
The optics are gonna' suck whichever way you go I think. At some point you have to decide if you want to suffer short or long.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:26 am to Jaydeaux
Here's some advice for LSU going forward, don't sign a contract with a coach that includes a buyout which you cannot pay. Especially a coach who is conducting an experiment which includes him not coaching. Heads need to roll for this and honestly, I cannot believe it hasn't happened yet. Fans must refuse to go to the games to hit them in the pocketbook and embarrass them when the stands are empty for nationally televised games. That is the only ammo we have but it will work if the fans are willing.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:26 am to lovinLSU
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LoL.... so you want to fire the coach and pay him approximately 9 mill and still TRUST the AD whose fricked up every hire he has ever made in EVERY SPORT?
Literally NO ONE is suggesting that.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:26 am to lovinLSU
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the AD whose fricked up every hire he has ever made in EVERY SPORT?
Well the Will Wade hire looks good. Just for conversation's sake.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:29 am to GeauxTigerTM
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No doubt about it...it's looks fricking idiotic. But wasn't optics to blame for why Miles was not let go in 2015? What will the optics be of our program having the wheels fly off in every direction as LSU slams head first into the wall of national media humiliation...as recruits turn away, as fans turn away, and the money needed to fund the program dwindles...? The optics are gonna' suck whichever way you go I think. At some point you have to decide if you want to suffer short or long.
I agree. We have already quickly become a laughing stock across CFB, why not just bite the bullet and buy them out and start fresh? As you and everyone else have mentioned, LSU stands to lose far more than the buyout amount in the long run.
shite.. maybe ponying up the buyout money would actually make us look better, rather than letting this disaster fester even longer. At least getting rid of them would appear like we actually give a shite.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:32 am to madddoggydawg
Eddie Nunez did everything BUT Negotiate the contract in regards to Sir William Wade, savior of the shooty hoops.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:34 am to DmitriKaramazov
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LSU can afford the buyout if it really wants to. That's just another feeble excuse for keeping a good ole boy coach who is going to decimate the program.
But here's my question: outside of trying to save face, what does the BOS have to gain by allowing O to stick around and decimate the program?
Hiring him was an epic, total blunder that will cost the university millions, but there really isn't a way Alleva or the BOS save face now. Best approach: stop kicking the can down the road, man up for the mistake, and take care of business.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:35 am to sweetwaterbilly
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I agree. We have already quickly become a laughing stock across CFB, why not just bite the bullet and buy them out and start fresh? As you and everyone else have mentioned, LSU stands to lose far more than the buyout amount in the long run.
That's the thing that makes college football so much different that the NFL. Being a national joke CAN and DOES become a problem that will keep the program mired in mediocrity.
We can't draft our way out if recruits don't want to play for a joke...we can't free agent our way out by paying them more to come to Cleveland or San Diego (RIP). Every day LSU is the butt of a joke the brand gets tarnished and it becomes that much harder to pull up. And...unless we don't know this already, while we may be considered a Top 10 program still that blue blood status isn't permanent, and given we're LSU and not Notre Dame or USC or BAMA, etc...we're not going to be given the same length of leash to dangle before we become irrelevant.
It took a miracle in Saban coming at the right time in 1999...are we REALLY hoping we strike that gold a second time if we tank again? We're still salvageable...if we cut bait and make a change now.
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