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definitely putting the cart before the horse
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:24 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:24 am
i'm not on the fire the coach train. but, I do agree that there is no point in doing so with the fellas who have pointed out that you must get rid of alleva first. do you want alleva making the next hire?
one thing is for sure, we fired miles, who whether you liked him or not was the most successful coach in history, and then if we turn around and fire his replacement within a year or two you'd damned well better have a home run hire waiting in the wings.
so you get rid of alleva this year and hire another A.D. is it realistic that he has a home run hire right away? he probably needs another year. so you are stuck with Ed for at least 2 years.
you get rid of orgeron without alleva, alleva makes a terrible decision on the next guy ... what have you done to improve the program?
one thing is for sure, we fired miles, who whether you liked him or not was the most successful coach in history, and then if we turn around and fire his replacement within a year or two you'd damned well better have a home run hire waiting in the wings.
so you get rid of alleva this year and hire another A.D. is it realistic that he has a home run hire right away? he probably needs another year. so you are stuck with Ed for at least 2 years.
you get rid of orgeron without alleva, alleva makes a terrible decision on the next guy ... what have you done to improve the program?
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:25 am to stephendomalley
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so you are stuck with Ed for at least 2 years.
You are an absolute idiot if you think we stick with that clown for two more years.
And this is like the 80th thread you've started saying he's going to be here three years
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 9:28 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:27 am to stephendomalley
One thing is for sure and that Alleva is Os security blanket. The longer Alleva is here the longer O is coach.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:27 am to stephendomalley
Bingo, Alleva needs to be fired and a new AD brought in that is capable of making good hires. Give him a year with O as coach and if O fails next year go clean house and start from scratch with a homerun hire....ALLEVA HAS GOT TO GO FIRST
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 9:28 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:29 am to Tunasntigers92
I don't know I have seen LSU do some crazy shite! Cully Hallman, JJ in basket ball !!!! Nothing they do would surprise any more! 
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:31 am to SwampBandit
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Alleva needs to be fired and a new AD brought in that is capable of making good hires. Give him a year with O as coach and if O fails next year go clean house and start from scratch with a homerun hire
WAKE UP ...
if WADE works out, Aleeva is not going anywhere
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:32 am to stephendomalley
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so you get rid of alleva this year and hire another A.D. is it realistic that he has a home run hire right away?
Why wouldn’t it be? It doesn’t matter who we hire as AD (assuming they are competent) there is a finite list of maybe 10 coaches that need to get serious consideration. Interview those 10 coaches and pick one.
I think Alleva will be fired before the end of this season and Orgeron will be fired before October of next season.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:32 am to rbdallas
You've got to be kidding me, Alleva's future is not hinged on Wade
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:32 am to stephendomalley
Alleva even if still at LSU will NOT make the next hire.
He is at best 1-4 in HC hires.
Not even FKing and our BoS is that stupid.
He is at best 1-4 in HC hires.
Not even FKing and our BoS is that stupid.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:33 am to stephendomalley
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so you get rid of alleva this year and hire another A.D. is it realistic that he has a home run hire right away? he probably needs another year
How’s about we hire an AD who can make a good hire immediately, or how we say in the biz “doing your job”
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:34 am to rbdallas
Not true. Football is the cash cow. 1 good hire will not save his job. And if you gave been keeping up, Alleva has already pissed off Wade.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:35 am to stephendomalley
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if we turn around and fire his replacement within a year or two you'd damned well better have a home run hire waiting in the wings.
Why? Does it have to be a "home run hire" to be better than Orgeron? I passed three homeless guys on the way to work this morning who would probably be better than Orgeron, but I doubt any of them are home run hires.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:38 am to smil3432
I understand all the anger and frustration. i'm saying that realistically, you need to get your mind right to keep from popping a fuse!
I've got it! Wish upon a star and sing along with Jiminy Cricket! then alleva, alexander, and orgeron will all be fired next week and we'll bring in Kryptonite as Head Coach to Saban's Superman.
if you want to make sure it's done right next time, it will take time.
I've got it! Wish upon a star and sing along with Jiminy Cricket! then alleva, alexander, and orgeron will all be fired next week and we'll bring in Kryptonite as Head Coach to Saban's Superman.
if you want to make sure it's done right next time, it will take time.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:39 am to Nuts4LSU
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Why? Does it have to be a "home run hire" to be better than Orgeron? I passed three homeless guys on the way to work this morning who would probably be better than Orgeron, but I doubt any of them are home run hires.
That's the same ridiculous mindset that got us saddled with Orgeron in the first place.
Welp, we couldn't get our homerun hires, let's just hire O. There's minimum 50 capable coaches in between Jimbo/Herman and Orgeron, a few of whom will be top names in a couple of years.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 9:40 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:40 am to stephendomalley
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if you want to make sure it's done right next time, it will take time.
It doesn't have to take time. Competent ADs at football schools already know who the hot names will be. If Orgeron isnt fire this year (I dont think he will be) it wont be because a new hire would take some time, it will be because we don't want to pay his buyout.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:40 am to rbdallas
I thought it was supposedly common knowledge when the hire was made that Alleva would be out if Orgeron wasn't a success at HC.
My conspiracy theory is that Alleva gave O the huge buyout to ensure he (they) weren't fired.
"Look Ed, I'm gonna include this big buyout, which no one is going to know about until it's too late. I've made it big enough that if things go south quickly, and we both get fired, we can split it and spend the rest of our lives living it up and laughing at LSU."
Hope they start steering things north starting this weekend.
My conspiracy theory is that Alleva gave O the huge buyout to ensure he (they) weren't fired.
"Look Ed, I'm gonna include this big buyout, which no one is going to know about until it's too late. I've made it big enough that if things go south quickly, and we both get fired, we can split it and spend the rest of our lives living it up and laughing at LSU."
Hope they start steering things north starting this weekend.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:42 am to stephendomalley
What's Stoops up to? You think he'll want to crank it back up after a sabbatical?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:49 am to lowhound
i'll tell you why it has to be a home run hire. because this fan base has no patience left. you take a chance on a guy and he starts out with a .500 record or worse everything will be blowing up all over again.
read this board. you're not finding very many reasonable people on here.
you know what? it's probably even worse than I have posited. remember alleva wanted to fire miles at the end of 2015. who stopped him? F***ing King! who knows? alleva might have been able to redeem himself with a good hire at that point. King CARES about perception, which means he doesn't want to look like he made a mistake. which means he is not likely to make any public move that could be criticized, like firing alleva midseason. it's a total screw-up, man.
read this board. you're not finding very many reasonable people on here.
you know what? it's probably even worse than I have posited. remember alleva wanted to fire miles at the end of 2015. who stopped him? F***ing King! who knows? alleva might have been able to redeem himself with a good hire at that point. King CARES about perception, which means he doesn't want to look like he made a mistake. which means he is not likely to make any public move that could be criticized, like firing alleva midseason. it's a total screw-up, man.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 9:53 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:55 am to Tunasntigers92
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You've got to be kidding me, Alleva's future is not hinged on Wade
Yep.
most LSU fans DGAF about basketball, even baseball.
football is king, football is the decider for an AD
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:55 am to stephendomalley
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so you get rid of alleva this year and hire another A.D. is it realistic that he has a home run hire right away? he probably needs another year. so you are stuck with Ed for at least 2 years.
What?
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