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David Grewe-- thanks

Posted on 3/1/11 at 10:35 pm
Posted by lsudent
Member since Jan 2008
105 posts
Posted on 3/1/11 at 10:35 pm
Anybody upset that he is still our recruiting and pitching coach? He is the heart of our recruiting and I think it is showing early in the season. Hope he somehow stays for a long time.

Just find it amusing after many were calling for his head last year....

Thanks Coach Grewe!
Posted by LSUZouave
Gulf Coast
Member since Nov 2007
410 posts
Posted on 3/1/11 at 10:37 pm to
I want him as part of our coaching staff and I think he is a great recruiter!

As for being the pitching coach.......
Posted by Bonjourno
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2705 posts
Posted on 3/1/11 at 10:57 pm to
The pitchers obviously did not get the help they needed last year as evidenced by the outstanding performances of Ranaudo and Ott in the summer. The young arms look great though
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126934 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 7:37 am to
quote:

Just find it amusing after many were calling for his head last year....


*cough Lester Earl cough*
Posted by TIGERFANZZ
THE Death Valley
Member since Nov 2007
4057 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 7:49 am to
He can recruit but can he "improve" talent once it gets here? Very few pitchers who make it to a place like LSU are ready to go as freshman, there are some exceptions, so what really needs to be looked at is, sure almost anyone can get talent to come to LSU but can the pitching coach make them better once they are here? I am VERY impressed with the young arms we have this year but last years pitching failures still make me wonder if there was something missing. Most of these guys who struggled last year, ie. Ranaudo and Ott , were lights out in the summer leagues. Kinda makes you say hmmmmmm? The guy can recruit, just not sure he is the best pitching coach.

G E A U X T I G E R S!!!
This post was edited on 3/2/11 at 7:51 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126934 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 7:56 am to
quote:

Ranaudo and Ott , were lights out in the summer leagues.
Ranaudo was hurt most of the season up until the very end. He pitched very well in the SEC tournament.

Ott...I think he had a mental problem brought on by his long stint (7 innings) in the extra inning Alabama game followed up by his one start. It really messed with his mind, I think.
Posted by Bassmaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
148 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 8:14 am to
I was told from a pitcher on the team that every pitcher Grewe taught the cutter to had to have tommy john after the season.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126934 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 8:17 am to
quote:

I was told from a pitcher on the team that every pitcher Grewe taught the cutter to had to have tommy john after the season.
So that means Bourgeois and Rittener.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21556 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 8:21 am to
quote:

I was told from a pitcher on the team that every pitcher Grewe taught the cutter to had to have tommy john after the season.


a cutter shouldn't cause those issues. Maybe a split finger, but not a cutter.

Also, 2 pitchers out of a whole staff needing tommy john is not really out fo the ordinary. Just dumb luck.
Posted by 56 chevy
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
2 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 8:33 am to
Wood bats and less pressure in summer ball and more time for Renaudo to heal had alot to do with their performances which were outstanding. If this young staff gets better than we will see what kind of pitching coach he is. If they keep improving we will end up in Omaha.
Posted by Tmon225
Member since Jun 2009
7250 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 11:55 am to
quote:

So that means Bourgeois and Rittener.


Matulis is having TJ too. But he is at UCF now.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126934 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

Matulis is having TJ too. But he is at UCF now.
So, he doesn't count....
Posted by Stewie Griffin
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
16148 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 12:01 pm to
A cut fastball shouldn't mess up your arm. If you throw it wrong, it's not a cutter.
Posted by Tmon225
Member since Jun 2009
7250 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

So, he doesn't count....


Not very big on context clues are you? I was adding Matulis to the list.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30353 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 1:27 pm to
I could see it in person last year at the Regional in L.A. It wasn't coaching that was the problem. The pitching staff had NO talent last year. They were bringing guys in that shouldn't have even been in uniform at LSU from what I could tell.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158721 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Just find it amusing after many were calling for his head last year....


a tad early for these HA HA type posts don't you think? Staff looks much better early on, but let's get a few more weeks into the season before crow needs to be served.
Posted by TIGERFANZZ
THE Death Valley
Member since Nov 2007
4057 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 1:51 pm to
I agree with you on that one Tiger in NY. The talent level wasn't what we are used to at LSU, as far as the pitching goes. Ranaudo's injury hurt us BIG TIME & from there, no one really stepped up. Ott went through a meltdown to end the year & nobody is really sure why-girlfriend problems, injury, messed up from the start & long innings-all of these were "reasons" thrown out there. Fact is, I think MLB took a toll on the pitching staff & recruits & it finally caught up to us & bit us in the rear. I don't know if another pitching coach would have done much better with what Grewe had to work with but I was concerned about the lack of progress, & a seemingly rise in regression some of the pitchers made. The year is still early but I like what they have showed so far, is it Grewe, is it a rise in talent?

G E A U X T I G E R S!!!
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164014 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

a tad early for these HA HA type posts don't you think? Staff looks much better early on, but let's get a few more weeks into the season before crow needs to be served.

Never too early for these kind of baseball threads on da rant.

Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33436 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

The pitchers obviously did not get the help they needed last year as evidenced by the outstanding performances of Ranaudo and Ott in the summer.


Really? Ranaudo was hurt most of the year here and just got healthy enough for summer. And the whole wooden bat/aluminum bat thing might have a little to do with it. And Ott just maybe needed a break and a fresh start after a tough season to clear his head. But let's blame all of this on the pitching coach because the popular thing to do is bash the coach.


Oh those knowledgable and classy LSU baseball fans...they really know their baseball.




Ok I will stop now.
This post was edited on 3/2/11 at 2:56 pm
Posted by ellisu99
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2011
48 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 2:58 pm to
absolutely true. The only reason there is some early success is because of weak early opponents and incoming guys being really good.
Trying to throw a cutter taught by a catcher is one of the best scenerios for arm problems.
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