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Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:09 pm
Posted by roscoe mike
Member since Nov 2009
1578 posts
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:09 pm
In light of Chavis acknowledging his excitement about teaming up with a "good" offense, has the HUNH spread offense been proven to be the championship winning formula going forward?...

Is it possible that Chavis' system will be less effective with Sumlin's offense?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

has the HUNH spread offense been proven to be the championship winning formula going forward?
If by "going forward", you mean until the end of this month, then yeah.

Otherwise, yeah, until the next thing comes along.
Posted by lsuguru
Lake Charles
Member since Aug 2007
1782 posts
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:17 pm to
All I could think of watching the two playoff games was how different all of the offenses looked from LSU's. Les needs to get with the times and give up this ground and pound bullshite. He is truly a dinosaur when it comes to QB development and offenses.

A&M's offense takes more risk as opposed to Les's philosophy, which is run it three times, punt and let's put this on the defense. In our four losses during the regular season LSU averaged 12 points a game, much of which came when Harris played at Moo state. Its hard to win games, when ur offense sucks as bad as ours did this year
Posted by zoom
everywhere
Member since Apr 2013
3564 posts
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:29 pm to
Offense would be great
With a qb
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7120 posts
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:37 pm to
Chavis runs a type of Miami 4-3.

The system is designed for speed over size and allows for athletic players to play versus having a specific skill set. You don't need great talent for it to work (you define work...top defense in NCAA or keep the team in the game so the offense can work).

It is designed to attack. Chavis' take on the defense focused on the LB and secondary. Having very good DL talent at LSU was a big boost for him. However, the focus is the other 7.

Just based on the last few years, Chavis's defense at LSU has had trouble with physical teams. In addition, it has had trouble with teams who offensive style demands a discipline assignment based defense. TX A&M will continue to play these type of teams (LSU, Ark, Bama, Miss. St...hell the entire SEC West) despite hiring Chavis.

TX A&M got a huge upgrade at DC. Now, can Sumlin and gang get the talent Chavis needs (the other seven) to make his scheme work? What makes this even more difficult is TCU's defense needs (LB and secondary...needs the same type of player..athletic). Could make recruiting in TX harder, especially since Chavis isn't known for recruiting. They really need Brick to make this work..IMHO.

So, maybe TX A&M with Chavis can keep the score down enough to let its offense finally win more games. But, I can also see where teams just power football vs. the Aggies (that is where just average DL play can kill them) and limit the Aggies' offense.
Posted by trooploop
Member since Feb 2013
831 posts
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:40 pm to
Chavis is going to find out what it's like when his defense is on the field all game. Even this year with the offensive struggles LSU was top 10 in the country in time of possession.
Posted by Football_Freak
Member since May 2012
2410 posts
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:40 pm to
If TAMU gets much better talent within 2 years, this could possibly work, but if LSU hammers TAMU at Tiger Stadium in '15 and again in '16 at Kyle Field on Turkey Day, his welcome will be worn. Unfortunately for Cheif, LSU's talent advantage over TAMU will not be lessened in the next 2 years, but will be maintained.

Chief needs top-tier talent for his system to work. If his defense is on the field longer since TAMU scores so fast, they will be tired as well. If TAMU develops the ability to sustain lengthy drives, this would be more helpful to the cause.

No one knows how this will go, but it is anything but a given that it will result in a big improvement UNTIL TAMU significantly advances in the first and second string talent on the field and bench.
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