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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:02 am
Posted by TIEF
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:02 am
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:11 am to
Seems reasonable, although I think we can win the West if we can get 10 wins. I don't think Bama or Auburn are going to be juggernauts this year, and OM and MSU will slide back to their usual places behind Arky.
Posted by glaucon
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2008
5292 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:19 am to
I am trying to figure out how he concluded that o-line depth was a potential problem on this team.
Posted by LSUTIGERS8181
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2012
9971 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:18 am to
What a poor article. The guy just seems like he has no clue what he is talking about and just threw some stats in there.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:23 am to
Why was it a poor article?
Posted by alumni95
Member since Jun 2004
7587 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:53 am to
because Jalen Collins is NOT returning... typos/grammar throughout.

ETA: The Jalen Collins note was in the accompanying article, not the link in the OP. There was even a reference to "Brandon Jennings"... that is just pure sloppy/shoddy reporting.

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What You Need To Know About The Defense: There was almost no pass rush, and there were a few rough patches, but the defense overall was outstanding, finishing third in the nation against the pass and ninth in total defense. New coordinator Kevin Steele and line coach Ed Orgeron will ramp up the pressure from the line, but they need some ends to emerge to do it. The tackles will be as good as ever, led by Christian LaCouture, and the linebackers should be excellent. The real strength is a secondary that was so good last year and gets corners Jalen Collins and Tre’Davious White back on the outside to go along with safeties Jalen Mills and Jamal Adams.


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Travin Dural, John Diarse and Malachi Dupre are next-level receiver talents, and the tight ends should have decent years, but they need someone to throw them the ball. Brandon Harris is fine, but he needs to be sensational as the main man at quarterback with Brandon Jennings encountering legal issues.


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This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 12:02 pm
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:57 am to
Brandon Harris is the 10th best player on this team? I feel like he just felt the need to put a QB on there
Posted by crazyLSUfan
LA (Lower Alabama)
Member since Aug 2006
6698 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:00 pm to
Seriously. Also Jamal Adams should be the #2 beat player. And Jerald Hawkins should be listed somewhere in the top 10
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:48 pm to
Pretty fair assessment overall, although I disagree with a few of the finer points he made.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3929 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Seriously. Also Jamal Adams should be the #2 beat player. And Jerald Hawkins should be listed somewhere in the top 10


This. No Hawkins, no Pocic.
Posted by George P Burdell
Piney Point Village, Texas
Member since Aug 2014
301 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

But Miles has been doubted before. He wasn’t on a hot seat after going 17-9 in 2008-2009, but cranking up an 11-2 2010 certainly didn’t hurt and coming up with an epic 2011, one of the greatest regular seasons in college football history, didn’t hurt. He could really, really use another ten-win campaign.

Miles's seat actually did seem a little warm following '08 - '09, but I agree with this statement overall. The Texas comparisons made me wince a little. Also, this guy's editor should probably be suspended until he learns how to correct basic grammar and punctuation errors.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26607 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 12:02 pm to
Article is terrible. Only morons can look at the talent we have and what is coming in and say "are they the new Texas"? Please. Miles just went and got Cam who is turning it up in QB talent, replaced a slacking "Stud" with a younger guy that pulls in much more talent, has gotten Ed O (one of the best DL coaches in the nation) to fix the pass rush situation and better recruiting. Steele will make the linebackers better than they have been under Chavis as well. Miles has damn near overhauled the entire coaching staff the last two years. Of course losing Chavis wasnt in the plan, but getting Ed O was a hell of an upgrade over Haley. This is as bad as the people who are putting Auburn in the top 5 or 6. Auburn is so damn inconsistent it is ridiculous. LSU has had sort of a pattern since the new century. Three or four great years, then one let down year.

I mean yep, the team that just went 44-9 the past four seasons prior to 2014, is all of a sudden going to become mediocre? Makes me remember an article the other day about trending that said LSU is going to become an 8-5 or 9-4 type program going forward. What in the hell makes you think that?

What is more likely to happen, is that Ed O and Steele provide us with a pass rush to go along with Raymond 's elite secondary. What is more likely to happen, is that a very talented Harris comes into his own at QB. What is more likely to happen, is that Fournette breaks LSU and possibly some SEC rushing records. What is more likely to happen, is that this loaded WR corps steps up to the plate. What is more likely to happen, is that LSU becomes a yearly playoff contender. All of that is more likely to happen over the next 5 years, than LSU just slipping back into mediocrity.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

But is the program stale? Worse yet, is the program the new Texas?

Miles is going to turn 62 this season, but he’s as active and energetic as ever and isn’t slowing down in any way. The concern, though, is that LSU under Miles might be turning into Texas under Mack Brown.
We've had our fair share of problems over the years. But I'm not saying LSU is becoming UT during the Brown era. For the most part, we've recruited talent that has produced on the field. UT would sign classes that on paper looked top tier. But would never produce during the 3-5 years they were on campus.

Posted by dbbuilder79
Overton NV
Member since Dec 2010
4147 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 12:21 pm to
With the exception of welter, Chavis did really good with our LBs.

The only way Steele will do better is if we continue to recruit better LBs. As far as developing talent, Chavis is probably better.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Only morons can look at the talent we have and what is coming in and say "are they the new Texas"? Please.


I'm not sure if you are aware, but Texas was pulling Top 5 classes consistently under Mack Brown. They had more talent than almost anyone, and yet still let the bottom fall out in the W/L column.

2012: #2 class
2011: #4
2010: #2
2009: #6

Those were the classes Mack was working with.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26607 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

I'm not sure if you are aware, but Texas was pulling Top 5 classes consistently under Mack Brown. They had more talent than almost anyone, and yet still let the bottom fall out in the W/L column. 2012: #2 class 2011: #4 2010: #2 2009: #6 Those were the classes Mack was working with.


I said the talent we have and what's coming in.

Sending kids to the pros
Texas had stopped even putting competent players into the NFL. We just sent off, a year ago, 2 WR, 2 RB, a QB and an LG from the 2013 team, who all majorly contributed to their teams in their very first year. We sent 5 DL, starting MLB, a starting CB, and starting safety off to the NFL the year prior.

Recruiting
Mack Brown and his staff became lazy at evaluating talent. He loaded up Texas talent because they were Texas kids and couldn't perform in a weak Big 12. Letting so many big time QBs get away as well. Miles loads up on Louisiana talent and only let's slip one or two top guys over all because nobody gets everybody. Hiring Cam ensures LSU won't miss out on top QBs also.

Winning
Mack hadn't won 10 games since the 2009 season. Miles has won at least 10 games in 4 of the past 5 years. His one 8-5 season would tie for 2nd best in Mack's last 5 seasons.

Coaching
Hiring Cam ensures better QB play, but fans need to remain patient. He is teaching a really raw dual threat QB in Harris to play under control and calm in a pro style setting. We then get Franks next year and he is already more developed than Harris was last year and just as athletic. Hiring Ed O not only improves recruiting, but him and Steele will turn the woes we've had in generating a pass rush, into success. Hiring Grimes gave a crazy boost to OL recruiting and he has not become complacent like Stud did. Expect to see better pass blocking which has eluded us for a while now. Plus we are already great with Raymond as DB coach and even though we lost Henry, Ball produced some good-great WRs and Moreno in his 9 years at UGA. WRs; Bennett, Conley, King, and Green. all have at least 1600 receiving yards and 17 TDs during his time. Mitchell has 1485 and 11 TDs and will be UGA's #1 WR this year (hampered by injuries).
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