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re: College Baseball Polls Week 5

Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by harry coleman beast
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:49 pm to
There's a line and you just crossed it. I ra'd
Posted by AstroTiger
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by lsurulz1515
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:18 pm to
Hope this hasn't been posted yet:

Jeff (Washington D.C.): Last week you said “No team ranked above them (LSU) has more than two losses, and they've all played stronger schedules.”

Today, I come with data. LSU is 3-1 in true road games against the RPI Top 20. The only other BA top 10 team to have played a top 20 team on the road is GA Tech (2 of 3 at VT). South Carolina did take 1 game at RPI #21 Clemson. In parenthesis is the highest RPI rank of a true road opponent for the remainder of the BA top 10: UNC (102), Vanderbilt (42), Oregon State (67), Louisville (200), Ole Miss (87), Fullerton (80), Kentucky (57).

In addition to LSU’s impressive road record against the top 20, LSU has 8 wins against the RPI top 50. BA’s beloved Tar Heels have 4 (11 wins against 101-200).

The remainder of the BA top 10: Vanderbilt has 6, the battle tested Beavers have 0, Louisville has 2, South Carolina has 5, Ole Miss has 5, Fullerton has 5, GA Tech has 6 and Kentucky has 2. All of the 17+ other college baseball polls, including all of the RPI formulas, have LSU in the top 3. BA has LSU 7th.

Could you please address the LSU fans who believe BA holds a bias against their beloved Tigers?


Aaron Fitt: Hey, fans love to feel like everybody is out to get them. The media especially -- everybody knows the media is biased, right? Look, when everybody ranked ahead of you wins their series, it's hard to move up.

Who should we have dropped behind LSU this week? Ole Miss, after taking two of three at Arkansas? South Carolina, which won a conference road series and also has a nice series win against Clemson? Louisville, which had an unbeaten week and also owns a sweep against Alabama? Oregon State, which swept three at defending national champion Arizona? Vandy, which swept a road series? UNC, which took its first loss of the season but still won a quality series against Miami?

You can argue that we were too low on LSU coming into the season, when we had them No. 9, but there were legit questions about LSU coming into the season, and they've mostly been answered (I'll need to see Cody Glenn do it against SEC competition before I'm convinced the Sunday starter question is resolved).

I really like LSU, but I also really like the six teams we have ranked ahead of the Tigers. And we have been consistent for three decades with our methodology -- when the teams in front of you win, you're rarely going to jump over them.
Posted by harry coleman beast
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:19 pm to
Jeff = Pilot Tiger
Posted by LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:22 pm to
that's a lot to read. what's it say?
Posted by lsurulz1515
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

that's a lot to read. what's it say?

You should've seen it before I separated the walls of text it pasted into

I bolded Aaron Fitt's reasoning
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

that's a lot to read. what's it say?


Aaron Fitt = douche
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by AstroTiger
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:30 pm to
Good question and good answer IMO


I wish people would leave out and get over the whole "(insert whoever) hates LSU" nonsense.




This post was edited on 3/18/13 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:31 pm to
AstroTiger HATES LSU fans.
Posted by AstroTiger
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:33 pm to
most of them yes
Posted by harry coleman beast
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:34 pm to
:|
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:35 pm to
Baseball America makes no sense to me still.

For instance, Notre Dame went 2-2 this week, losing once to a bad UC-Santa Barbara team and once to Cal Poly. Notre Dame jumped up from 17 to 15. Mississippi State went 2-2 this week, losing to us twice. They dropped from 13 to 19
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:36 pm to
Notre Dame has already been explained in this thread. Try to keep up.
Posted by AstroTiger
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

:|



don't worry, there are lists. you're on the good one
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:38 pm to
I wasn't reading through 5 pages
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

Baseball America makes no sense to me still.

For instance, Notre Dame went 2-2 this week, losing once to a bad UC-Santa Barbara team and once to Cal Poly. Notre Dame jumped up from 17 to 15. Mississippi State went 2-2 this week, losing to us twice. They dropped from 13 to 19


Because Note Dame won their series. Baseball America has said time and time again that what happens on the weekend is most important to them. And Cal Poly is a good team. They were ranked in several other polls.
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:38 pm to
Was one of Notre dames losses midweek? Because BA doesn't care about midweek.
This post was edited on 3/18/13 at 3:39 pm
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:38 pm to
Ya'll are missing a great thread on Saints Talk.
Posted by bas456
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

good answer IMO


How is that a good answer? When Ole Miss swept a bad TCU team (8-11 with an RPI of 120), Ole Miss jumped from 13 to 8, ahead of LSU who went 3-0 that week. LSU is still stuck behind Ole Miss because now the rule is a winning team doesn't get jumped.
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