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Can someone explain the "coaches aren't putting players in a position to succeed
Posted on 9/11/16 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 9/11/16 at 3:58 pm
I'm not sure I'm understanding, especially with Harris. The excuse used to be the scheme, run run pass and the QB can't get in a rhythm. This doesn't seem to be the case this year with us lining up with more 3WR Sets and running from the shotgun more.
At what point do you draw the line between blaming coaching or blaming the player?
At what point do you draw the line between blaming coaching or blaming the player?
Posted on 9/11/16 at 3:59 pm to PaperTiger
What's this 3 receiver set you speak of?
Posted on 9/11/16 at 4:01 pm to PaperTiger
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At what point do you draw the line between blaming coaching or blaming the player?
Different players, same coaches, same results. You do the math.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 4:02 pm to PaperTiger
I think it is because in Miles tenure how often have we seen any improvement in the qb position. It's usually regression, that seems to be a coaching issue.
Yes sometimes players are busts but to miss out and have as many busts as Miles had is quite strange.
Yes sometimes players are busts but to miss out and have as many busts as Miles had is quite strange.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 4:02 pm to PaperTiger
I don't think they ran any or very few 3 wide receiver sets against wisconsin. They ran more of it last night, but not enough.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 4:02 pm to PaperTiger
It's more to it than 3 wr sets. It's about giving your qb confidence by giving high percentage throws early. Adapting to his skill set. Being able to figure out what he does well & build around that.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 4:02 pm to Dallasgrowl
We have more active players in the NFL than any school. Where does that equate into that math?
Posted on 9/11/16 at 4:03 pm to PaperTiger
Call in any college football show this week and ask that same question. U will be stunned with the answer
Posted on 9/11/16 at 4:04 pm to PaperTiger
People try to find all these simple fixes....it is the program
We don't know if it is the QB because we don't know if the WR are running correct routes, we know they run em like shite. But are they even right.
We don't block well because we do t have good technique or know our assignments.
I don't know if our calls at the line are consistent between the line and QB. No one does I suspect not
This is why our O doesn't work. And for this Miles sees it and he is correct.
The problem is a culture of shortcuts. We don't put in the work to get this stuff done right.
It spans too many years and too many players and too many coaches
For this reason, until the culture changes we will see same results
We don't know if it is the QB because we don't know if the WR are running correct routes, we know they run em like shite. But are they even right.
We don't block well because we do t have good technique or know our assignments.
I don't know if our calls at the line are consistent between the line and QB. No one does I suspect not
This is why our O doesn't work. And for this Miles sees it and he is correct.
The problem is a culture of shortcuts. We don't put in the work to get this stuff done right.
It spans too many years and too many players and too many coaches
For this reason, until the culture changes we will see same results
Posted on 9/11/16 at 4:05 pm to TigerFanFromBama
What's a high percentage throw? I mean Harris missed a RB by 5 yards high in the flat vs Jax St. Are you saying we need to give Harris a lot of throws like that before we throw down field? And playing devils advocate, wouldn't that be easy to game plan against as an opposing D?
Posted on 9/11/16 at 4:05 pm to tigerwith3
Are you saying we need fewer three wide sets? We threw it better against Wiscy
Posted on 9/11/16 at 4:07 pm to TutHillTiger
Square peg round hole
Miles has a hammer tho
Miles has a hammer tho
Posted on 9/11/16 at 4:08 pm to PaperTiger
Not designing plays that make easier throws that our original starter needed to succeed.
Like basically, if you watch any other game on Saturday and see all the teams throwing the ball all over the field at will. And you say, why can't we do that?
Like basically, if you watch any other game on Saturday and see all the teams throwing the ball all over the field at will. And you say, why can't we do that?
Posted on 9/11/16 at 4:15 pm to PaperTiger
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We have more active players in the NFL than any school. Where does that equate into that math?
Recruiting...talent honed at the next level. It sure as hell is not Miles being a guru of skill development.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 4:30 pm to PaperTiger
quote:LSU is just a stop on the road to the NFL.
We have more active players in the NFL than any school
Posted on 9/11/16 at 4:34 pm to ScrapPack
quote:LOL. Nothing that difficult about the throws Harris missed on, or the ones Etling missed in 2nd half, save maybe the bomb to Dupre.
Not designing plays that make easier throws that our original starter needed to succeed.
Sometimes the difficulty is not throwing the difficult throws and using the short pass on hot route or check down which is something LSU's "original starter" has had trouble with.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 4:36 pm to PaperTiger
It's all over the place. QBs that are not pocket passers in an I Form offense.
Kickoff specialist who can outkick the universe limited to kicking short and angled.
Receiving TEs that rarely get the ball thrown to them and are asked to block more than run routes.
Kickoff specialist who can outkick the universe limited to kicking short and angled.
Receiving TEs that rarely get the ball thrown to them and are asked to block more than run routes.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 4:37 pm to TigerDat
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think it is because in Miles tenure how often have we seen any improvement in the qb position.
Every starter.
Lee and Jefferson improved, jmarc, Flynn, mett. Jennings transferred and Harris hasn't finished his career either.
Just more bullshite from fans.
The scheme has never been the issue.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 4:39 pm to PaperTiger
Idk but when you reach the point where you do the same shite over and over again and still fail without trying something different the coach has to be at fault somewhere. That goes for playcalling, recruiting and personell decisions as well. Our qb position has been a clusterfrick since mettenberger left and it has to be coaches fault at some point. It just has to be.
Posted on 9/11/16 at 4:54 pm to PaperTiger
This is a very simplistic view of it, but more often than not, simplicity is the best way to view a situation to solve a problem.
The goal for the LSU offense every game should be to put as many points as possible on their opponent to achieve victory.
You think LSU accomplishes this consistently?
Look at where your talent is at on the team.
And by talent, I mean weapons.
QBs, RBs, TEs, and definitely WR.
LSU rather showcase/put emphasis on just one of these positions, when in reality, you can showcase all 4 to make the team better.
LSU's OL is struggling. If people are jacked up by the Jax State Game, then just wait for SEC play.
So make it easier for them by spreading the field by taking guys out of the box. Miles brought in a OL coach who ran spread concepts in previous stops, but we don't run it.
Put the stars on the field.
Get Chark, drake Davis, Desean Smith,Jacoury Washington more involved. Not just putting them on the field, but design plays that actually get them the ball.
You can still run LF,DG as much as you want.
The bottom line is this:
Do you honestly believe this coaching staff gets the best out of its offensive talent after you watch UH, OM, FSU, UNC, etc.?
If that answer is no, then you answered your own question.
LSU could do way better than 100 fricking yards passing against Jax St.
The goal for the LSU offense every game should be to put as many points as possible on their opponent to achieve victory.
You think LSU accomplishes this consistently?
Look at where your talent is at on the team.
And by talent, I mean weapons.
QBs, RBs, TEs, and definitely WR.
LSU rather showcase/put emphasis on just one of these positions, when in reality, you can showcase all 4 to make the team better.
LSU's OL is struggling. If people are jacked up by the Jax State Game, then just wait for SEC play.
So make it easier for them by spreading the field by taking guys out of the box. Miles brought in a OL coach who ran spread concepts in previous stops, but we don't run it.
Put the stars on the field.
Get Chark, drake Davis, Desean Smith,Jacoury Washington more involved. Not just putting them on the field, but design plays that actually get them the ball.
You can still run LF,DG as much as you want.
The bottom line is this:
Do you honestly believe this coaching staff gets the best out of its offensive talent after you watch UH, OM, FSU, UNC, etc.?
If that answer is no, then you answered your own question.
LSU could do way better than 100 fricking yards passing against Jax St.
This post was edited on 9/11/16 at 4:55 pm
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