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Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:29 pm to Lakeboy7
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Nobody wants to believe this more than me, but as mentioned above there was zero improvement last year, in fact it was so bad we essentially ran a high school motion (running) offense a the end of the season because we knew we couldn't complete even simple routes
I guess you forgot about Mett going from 12tds-7 ints 128.3 qb rating 58.8% compl to 22tds-8 ints 171.4 qb rating 64.9%compl.
Cam is one of the main reason for Mett's huge improvement. Last year he had a very inexperienced offense let alone qb.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:33 pm to BigBrod81
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Many fans overlook the fact that the offense tried to throw more early in the season (Wisconsin, Mississippi St.) but it was struggle doing so. Jennings struggled with his touch, accuracy & his reads. The receivers struggled making the proper presnap route adjustments pertaining to coverage. They also struggled consistently in route running & getting off press coverage
You can't tell posters on here this. When they see an offense struggle they think that the coaches should implement an entirely new scheme in the 20 hours they are allowed to practice.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:18 pm to ipodking
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I hope we land Keytaon Thompson
Hell yeah. A true dual threat that passes as good or better than he runs.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 8:38 am to The Pirate King
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Phillip Rivers , drew brees, joe flacco...Coach Cam's students
wha
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Coaching a college QB and a pro QB is an entirely different ballgame
Nobody was teaching Rivers, Brees, Flacco mechanics, progressions, snap counts, drop backs, etc. etc.
Coaches were, though, creating offenses and installing them around the already extremely capable Rivers, Brees, Flacco....
Posted on 7/25/15 at 10:10 am to Rickdaddy4188
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When they see an offense struggle they think that the coaches should implement an entirely new scheme in the 20 hours they are allowed to practice.
We weren't even completing basic routes....its not like things were overly complicated with our passing game.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 11:35 am to Rickdaddy4188
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You can't tell posters on here this. When they see an offense struggle they think that the coaches should implement an entirely new scheme in the 20 hours they are allowed to practice.
Not to mention you had a tr. Fr. and tr. So trying to run the O. last season and one of them admitted to having trouble knowing the plays and playing with an injury.
We are 1 yr. removed from having one of the better passing games in LSU history, we had very young QBs last season, and people are knocking Cam cause the O. struggled.
We loss a pretty good, experienced QB, 2 pretty good, experienced R's, and a pretty good, experienced RB in 2014. We replaced they pretty much with talented, but young guys. I don't know why some seem surprised with the passing game taking a hit in 2014, but as you said, "You can't tell posters on here this".
I expect to see an improved passing game pretty much like what I saw in 2011, the 1/2 half of 2012, and 2013.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:14 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Coaches were, though, creating offenses and installing them around the already extremely capable Rivers, Brees, Flacco..
Actually you're wrong. Cam definitely changed the way they threw and how they played. I don't feel like fining them, but there are several articles that point to these facts.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:29 pm to RedTigerRulz
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We weren't even completing basic routes....its not like things were overly complicated with our passing game.
How could they do anything more advanced when none of the WRs could handle what they were doing now?
-Blocking when they were the primary receiver
-Breaking off their routes early
-Running the wrong routes
-Getting forced off their routes
-Walking their routes
-Not aggressive to the ball (attack it, stop just letting it just come to you)
-Dropping passes
-Not getting enough seperation (and usually no seperation)
I mean I would take y'all more seriously if you didn't just get on the QBs all the time like they were the only problem (not this specific post I'm replying to, just the media and fans in general). Pass blocking also continued to be bad (it has been bad for a while now).
The fact of the matter is, outside of the very few seniors on the two deep and Alexander, everybody else was green. Pocic had a little bit, I think Hawkins had a bit, Dural had a sliver, and Jennings had some QB sneaks and a bowl game. Everybody needs to get it together, not just the QBs. I'm looking forward to that happening this year.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:35 pm to Datbayoubengal
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Actually you're wrong. Cam definitely changed the way they threw and how they played. I don't feel like fining them, but there are several articles that point to these facts.
It's like they believe all 3 just magically showed up in the NFL ready to be successful. Flacco was talented but raw coming out of Delaware. Brees struggled early on going back & forth from starting to being benched. Rivers had a learning curve to adjust to. Cam helped them all with their mechanics, film study habits, foot work & other general aspects of the position. Brees openly says he would not be the quarterback he is today with the teachings of Cam Cameron but what the frick does he know about quarterbacking, right?
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:41 pm to Datbayoubengal
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-Blocking when they were the primary receiver
-Breaking off their routes early
-Running the wrong routes
-Getting forced off their routes
-Walking their routes
-Not aggressive to the ball (attack it, stop just letting it just come to you)
-Dropping passes
-Not getting enough seperation (and usually no seperation)
That's pretty spot on. You need to add one more though.
-rounding off routes (instead of breaking sharply & continuing the route in a straight line)
The pick Jennings threw against Texas A&M was not his fault. Dural rounded off his quick slant instead of breaking at the proper angle & running in straight line. By rounding the route off, it allowed the A&M corner the angle to undercut the route & get the interception.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:45 pm to tlsu15
I think Cam overachieved with the talent he had available last year.
There is some video from last year's spring camp where the players couldn't execute a slant pass and Cameron basically head "to hell with it; we're going back to 1950s football. we may not throw it ten times a game this year."
They did exactly that.
There is some video from last year's spring camp where the players couldn't execute a slant pass and Cameron basically head "to hell with it; we're going back to 1950s football. we may not throw it ten times a game this year."
They did exactly that.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:52 pm to logjamming
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There is some video from last year's spring camp where the players couldn't execute a slant pass and Cameron basically head "to hell with it; we're going back to 1950s football. we may not throw it ten times a game this year."
LINK
Posted on 8/6/15 at 2:22 pm to BigBrod81
The coaches recruit the players. They get to pick and choose who they want in their program. Logically, you would think they would recruit players that fit their scheme. Jennings was a 4 star recruit, Harris was a 5 in some recruiting circles. Either they weren't coached up, or, they were round pegs in square holes.
Look, I don't claim to be an expert and I certainly realize Miles, and particularly Cameron, have forgotten more football than I'll ever know, but last year's QB play sucked hard. IMO, they pushed the wrong buttons and called the wrong plays, or wrong sequence of plays. Hope springs eternal. I expect much better performance this yr.
Look, I don't claim to be an expert and I certainly realize Miles, and particularly Cameron, have forgotten more football than I'll ever know, but last year's QB play sucked hard. IMO, they pushed the wrong buttons and called the wrong plays, or wrong sequence of plays. Hope springs eternal. I expect much better performance this yr.
Posted on 8/6/15 at 2:30 pm to TigerJeff
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They get to pick and choose who they want in their program.
Posted on 8/6/15 at 4:31 pm to The Cow Goes Moo Moo
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Thought Feleipe Franks was some new mexican hotdog/sausage I missed out on
ROTFLMAS
Posted on 8/6/15 at 4:43 pm to logjamming
I agree, it's called a rebuilding year. Some of these dopes don't understand how young our team was at most crucial positions last year. 
Posted on 8/6/15 at 4:49 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You can't tell posters on here this. When they see an offense struggle they think that the coaches should implement an entirely new scheme in the 20 hours they are allowed to practice.
What's funny is when they say, "I don't understand why they don't change the scheme to fit their talents". News flash... They did, our talent was at the RB position. Jennings couldn't even hit screen passes and Harris was a true freshman, I don't blame him for not being ready. That's just absurd, true freshman don't play in the SEC for a reason.
Posted on 8/6/15 at 5:50 pm to tlsu15
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I'd say this season we see a whole different animal out of our QB position. Both looked much more comfortable in the spring game.
Let's see how "Comfortable" they look against Miss.State and Auburn in weeks 2 and 3, then the rest of the SEC.
No real pressure or live hits in the Spring game.
Posted on 8/6/15 at 7:54 pm to semjase
Cameron is a bust, wish he would transfer, by far the worst coach on this staff, even worse than Les
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