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re: Buga Nation is now selling clothing apparel

Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by LsuTool
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:37 pm to
"Dat boot baby, LSU"


Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:58 pm to
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their likeness


well it's a good thing that's not what LF is doing

so we're all good here
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:59 pm to
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likeness


Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

The right of publicity, often called personality rights, is the right of an individual to control the commercial use of his or her name, image, likeness, or other unequivocal aspects of one's identity.



LINK


LF nor his family will be profiting from LF's likeness or marketability by selling buganation gear? And buganation isn't directly tied to LF?
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 10:07 pm
Posted by Ignignot
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 10:09 pm to
LF can do whatever he wants until he steps on LSUs campus for fall practice. They can sell all the damn shirts they want right now and it won't affect his eligibility.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

quote:
specifically, NCAA bylaw 12.4.4, which governs college athlete self-employment:

A student-athlete may establish his or her own business, provided the

1.student-athlete's name
2. photograph
3. appearance
4. athletics reputation are not used to promote the business.



His name or his "likeness" isn't on the fricking shirt.

Can you not read?
Posted by TheRookbird
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 10:21 pm to
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NCAA Bylaw: 12.4.1.1 - Athletics Reputation.

Such compensation may not include any remuneration for value or utility that the student-athlete may have for the employer because of the publicity, reputation, fame or personal following that he or she has obtained because of athletics ability.




I'm sure the same definition of "athletics reputation" is included in 12.4.4. Looks like it's definitely a no-go. The question is can they sell them before he's enrolled which appears to be a gray area.

I think it opens up a huge can of worms for the NCAA if they allowed/continued to allow this.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 10:24 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 10:31 pm to
It's just a clothing line owned by his parents that he wears

Nothing to worry about
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 10:33 pm to
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employer


This has jack shite to do with LF

That by law you just quoted is essentially to prevent the Rhett bomars from working at a car dealership and getting paid off
Posted by TheRookbird
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 10:35 pm to
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It's just a clothing line owned by his parents that he wears

Nothing to worry about


Except it's his nickname... It will definitely violate the amateurism rules when he becomes a student athlete. It's the same reason Manziel couldn't sell Johnny Football shirts while at A&M.
Posted by TheRookbird
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 10:36 pm to
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This has jack shite to do with LF

That by law you just quoted is essentially to prevent the Rhett bomars from working at a car dealership and getting paid off


I quoted it because it was the definition of the term "athletics reputation" that appeared in the very rule you listed. Ignoring the "employer" language that appeared with the definition, it's clear from that language that this would not be allowed.
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 10:41 pm to
It's a family thing. What if the whole thing was his mommas idea and he just supports it?
Posted by TheRookbird
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 10:47 pm to
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It's a family thing. What if the whole thing was his mommas idea and he just supports it?


It's his nickname. He is an amateur athlete. He and his family cannot make money off of his nickname and maintain his amateur status. The only real question is do those rules apply when he signs an LOI or when he sets foot on campus.

eta: I also think the NCAA closed the Cam Newton loophole.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 10:48 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 2/1/14 at 6:46 am to
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it's his nickname


Doesn't have his name or like ness on it
This post was edited on 2/1/14 at 7:08 am
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 2/1/14 at 6:47 am to
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it's clear from that language that this would not be allowed.


And it's also clear you aren't the Lsu compliance department nor the NCAA.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 2/1/14 at 6:56 am to
opens a huge can of worms. nCAA is going to shut it down. What if an Alabama booster contacts LF and tell he will buy $200,000 worth of shirts if he agrees to commit to Alabama? Opens the door for other recruits families to start doing the same thing. Opens the door for a bidding war for student athletes.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 2/1/14 at 7:09 am to
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What if an Alabama booster contacts LF and tell he will buy $200,000 worth of shirts if he agrees to commit to Alabama?


What if a booster gives a kids father 200,000 dollars to his church?
Posted by General13
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Posted on 2/1/14 at 7:14 am to
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opens a huge can of worms. nCAA is going to shut it down. What if an Alabama booster contacts LF and tell he will buy $200,000 worth of shirts if he agrees to commit to Alabama? Opens the door for other recruits families to start doing the same thing. Opens the door for a bidding war for student athletes.

Exactly. If this situation isn't already illegal then it will be shortly.
I imagine it is. I believe ray rice's parents had a website that sold merchandise. It is was promptly turned strictly to a fan site. This was while he was at Rutgers obviously.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 2/1/14 at 7:20 am to
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 2/1/14 at 7:23 am to
one outcome in the past for minor violations or grey area violations is that the NCAA didn't really pursue it against him or the school, but just told the recruit he had to attend a different school
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