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Breaking curfew and setting the record straight
Posted on 8/21/11 at 7:59 am
Posted on 8/21/11 at 7:59 am
First, most of you have not been involved in a college program, so let me try and clarify for you the level of "disrespect" you keep citing.......minimal.
For the bulk of the players not involved in the fight but missing curfew, it was nothing more than getting a chance to blow off steam after working their asses off. That's it. It has happened on a large scale to every coach at LSU from Charlie to Les. Get over it. Don't blow it out of proportion!
You don't fricking suspend them, you run them and keep the matter in your own house. We called it Breakfast Club and it was fricking awful.
Again, this doesn't apply to those who were fighting, but the remaininge alleged 50 or so who were at the bar.
Keep it in perspective if you've never been on an organized college atheltic prgram.
For the bulk of the players not involved in the fight but missing curfew, it was nothing more than getting a chance to blow off steam after working their asses off. That's it. It has happened on a large scale to every coach at LSU from Charlie to Les. Get over it. Don't blow it out of proportion!
You don't fricking suspend them, you run them and keep the matter in your own house. We called it Breakfast Club and it was fricking awful.
Again, this doesn't apply to those who were fighting, but the remaininge alleged 50 or so who were at the bar.
Keep it in perspective if you've never been on an organized college atheltic prgram.
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Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:01 am to CharlesLSU
We appreciate your insight.... breakfast will never seem the same again. 
Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:03 am to igoringa
oh, i have no doubt some serious puking will be involved as well as ZERO social life. Tough times call for tough rules.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:04 am to CharlesLSU
I agree with this, the assaults are the issue, curfew is a minor thing. Felonious assault on the other hand is just terrible.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:04 am to CharlesLSU
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First, most of you have not been involved in a college program, so let me try and clarify for you the level of "disrespect" you keep citing.......minimal.
For the bulk of the players not involved in the fight but missing curfew, it was nothing more than getting a chance to blow off steam after working their asses off. That's it. It has happened on a large scale to every coach at LSU from Charlie to Les. Get over it. Don't blow it out of proportion!
You don't fricking suspend them, you run them and keep the matter in your own house. We called it Breakfast Club and it was fricking awful.
Again, this doesn't apply to those who were fighting, but the remaininge alleged 50 or so who were at the bar.
Keep it in perspective if you've never been on an organized college atheltic prgram.
WTF are you talking about!
They broke CURFEW! They broke a rule. No responsible person has ever done such a thing. Les has lost control of this team!
The whole season's fricked!
--The Rant
Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:08 am to CharlesLSU
The curfew issue isn't in itself a big deal. Sure its poor judgement for the leader of the team to be out breaking curfew 2 weeks before the season opener. Hey it happens these are young college guys wanting to have fun and chase some poon. But if everything went down like its being reported then JJ at the least should be permanently kicked off the team. Its one thing to get in a bar fight, its a whole different matter to kick a man in the head when he is already beaten down onto the ground.
This post was edited on 8/21/11 at 8:09 am
Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:12 am to CharlesLSU
Don't disagree, but what if some of these players violated other team rules in the past?
I'd say that would mean some kind of suspension like not starting, missing first quarter or half...something like that.
I'd say that would mean some kind of suspension like not starting, missing first quarter or half...something like that.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:17 am to Michael J
I look at it as a number of seniors lead a bunch of underclassmen out past 1030 curfew, thus breaking it and basically telling them that it's perfectly ok to do that.
A senior is supposed to be a leader. Period. They are the ones looked up to as the leaders that if they see something wrong, they correct it. A senior lsu football player is entrusted by the coaches to have a high maturity level, moreso that the underclassmen.
Another question is: how long has this been going on? The sneaking out after curfew thing.
Just some thoughts.
A senior is supposed to be a leader. Period. They are the ones looked up to as the leaders that if they see something wrong, they correct it. A senior lsu football player is entrusted by the coaches to have a high maturity level, moreso that the underclassmen.
Another question is: how long has this been going on? The sneaking out after curfew thing.
Just some thoughts.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:21 am to CharlesLSU
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For the bulk of the players not involved in the fight but missing curfew, it was nothing more than getting a chance to blow off steam after working their asses off. That's it. It has happened on a large scale to every coach at LSU from Charlie to Les. Get over it. Don't blow it out of proportion!
I agree that it's being blown out of proportion to a point. Sneaking out and breaking curfew by a few players is one thing. Half the team saying "frick it" and all going to a bar when they KNOW people will recognize them and it will probably get back to the coach is disrespecting the coaching staff big time IMO.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:21 am to TheDoc
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I look at it as a number of seniors lead a bunch of underclassmen out past 1030 curfew, thus breaking it and basically telling them that it's perfectly ok to do that.
A senior is supposed to be a leader. Period. They are the ones looked up to as the leaders that if they see something wrong, they correct it. A senior lsu football player is entrusted by the coaches to have a high maturity level, moreso that the underclassmen.
Another question is: how long has this been going on? The sneaking out after curfew thing.
Just some thoughts.
You're either 12 or 75. We broke curfew at OCS. If we'd been caught, we would have gotten the shite beaten out of us by the DIs, but that's about it.
These guys are fricking college football players. "Broke Curfew" for 19-24 year old guys (a 2230 curfew at that) sounds pretty trivial. I know it's a rule, but that's all it is. There is no cause for moral outrage.
This post was edited on 8/21/11 at 8:22 am
Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:24 am to Navytiger74
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You're either 12 or 75
Neither
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We broke curfew at OCS. If we'd been caught, we would have gotten the shite beaten out of us by the DIs, but that's about it.
Good leadership qualities
Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:25 am to Navytiger74
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I know it's a rule, but that's all it is.
Its pretty disrespectful IMO
Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:26 am to TheDoc
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Good leadership qualities
I guess I'll laugh with you...?
Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:27 am to TheDoc
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Its pretty disrespectful IMO
And it calls for some pain. It doesn't need to be a fricking life changing event, however.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:29 am to Navytiger74
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And it calls for some pain. It doesn't need to be a fricking life changing event, however.
Agreed. If it were just breaking curfew.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:31 am to Navytiger74
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And it calls for some pain. It doesn't need to be a fricking life changing event, however.
The punishment needs to be severe enough to make them change their fricking life! They need to be punished so that they never put themselves in that position again.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:34 am to JonTheTigerFan
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The punishment needs to be severe enough to make them change their fricking life! They need to be punished so that they never put themselves in that position again.
Waterboarding?
Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:34 am to CharlesLSU
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so let me try and clarify for you the level of "disrespect" you keep citing.......minimal.
As a former coach, this is the purpose for having a curfew!! To prevent an incident like this.
Breaking curfew is far from a minimal level of disrespect. Do you have children? Let them sneak out of the house at 1:30 am and see how 'minimal' it feels.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:35 am to CharlesLSU
FWIW - Alot of the baseball players regularly skipped curfew while in Omaha winning national titles under Skip. And they weren't out watching movies.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 8:36 am to TIsuGGER
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Breaking curfew is far from a minimal level of disrespect. Do you have children? Let them sneak out of the house at 1:30 am and see how 'minimal' it feels.
Are the children 19-24?
Is their curfew (at 19-24) on a non-practic night 2230?
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