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Basketball Strength of Schedule

Posted on 12/18/16 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2650 posts
Posted on 12/18/16 at 8:39 pm
LINK

NCAA Division 1 Strength of Schedule

I got curious after so many negative posts said we played such a terrible OOC schedule. The link above tracks SOS during the season. Currently LSU is about the middle. We are ahead of some surprising teams. I have listed a few rankings that I thought might be of interest.

Florida 2
Kentucky 16
Ole Miss 18
LSU 152
Indiana 161
Michigan 155
UAB 170
Navy 173
North Texas 174
Syracuse 185
West Virginia 198
Oklahoma 199
Memphis 204
Missouri 219
St. John’s 242
DePaul 244
Texas Tech 251
Tulane 253
UNLV 271
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 8:43 pm
Posted by BK785
Member since Feb 2013
3179 posts
Posted on 12/18/16 at 8:52 pm to
The problem is not who LSU is playing, the problem is how shitty they look playing them. Other teams on your list probably blow those teams out and LSU barely wins.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8154 posts
Posted on 12/18/16 at 8:56 pm to
W Wofford 244
W So Miss 342
W North Florida 222
L Wichita St 72
W Old Dominion 119
L VCU 22
W Houston 43
W NC Central 112
W Texas So 67

Do you really think Houston is the 43rd best team in the country? Do you believe that Texas Southern is top 100?
Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2650 posts
Posted on 12/18/16 at 11:39 pm to
quote:

Do you really think Houston is the 43rd best team in the country? Do you believe that Texas Southern is top 100?
What does that have to do with SOS and where are you getting that number from? SOS doesn't say how good a team is it just says how good the teams you have played are doing. RPI which is a much more complicated calculation shows how strong a team is and is the major thing the NCAA Tournament committee uses to invite teams. They do consider SOS also.

All I said was a bunch of posts come down on Jones for not playing tougher OCC teams. They say it hurts us getting into the tournament even if we win those games. But yet so far we are playing tougher teams than Indiana, Michigan, etc.

By the way, Houston's rip is currently 45 which means they would probably make the tournament if they chose right now. Of course all these numbers change overtime when you play more games.
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
5172 posts
Posted on 12/18/16 at 11:51 pm to
Charleston?
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8154 posts
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:23 am to
quote:

What does that have to do with SOS and where are you getting that number from?

Those ranks came from your link and were presumably what was used to determine your SoS.

quote:

All I said was a bunch of posts come down on Jones for not playing tougher OCC teams.

The teams we played were not very good and the SoS is very inaccurate until further into the season.
Posted by LSUGoose
Red Stick via St James Parish
Member since Jan 2006
5192 posts
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:41 am to
quote:

Charleston?


Assuming those are RPI numbers. Charleston is 54. LSU is 89.

LSU is about a 4 point favorite tonight. Home court! Deaf Dome!
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:50 am to
I said before the season started that this was easily the smartest OOC schedule of the Jones era. We aren't playing but maybe 1 or 2 sub 200 team this year where we normally play 4 or so of the sub 300 teams.... It wasn't top heavy, but this team isn't ready to beat top teams (see Wichita St game), so playing middle road teams is exactly what this team should be doing.

I was called out for defending the schedule, but we will end the OOC with a near top 100 OOC SOS. That is exactly what we should be doing until we can put a better team on the court.
This post was edited on 12/19/16 at 8:51 am
Posted by SCP
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
1337 posts
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:18 am to
A 152 SOS for a major conference team hoping to make the tourney is not good enough, IMO. In fact, instead of choosing teams seemingly at random to compare SOS, I went through the other SEC teams SOS thus far. We are 12th out of 14. This is weak!

Our current RPI is 90. This is not even close to making the tournament, although it is early. This does not leave much room for future losses. Our RPI is 10th out of 14 SEC teams.

The evidence does back up claims of a weak SOS. Also, because the SEC does not provide the strength of other major conferences, conference play limits opportunity to increase these numbers compared to ACC, Big East, Big 10, Big 12, etc.

Team SOS RPI

Alabama 131 142
Arkansas 110 26
Auburn 99 58
Florida 2 4
Georgia 38 63
Kentucky 16 7
LSU 152 90
Miss. St. 269 209
Missouri 219 249
Ole Miss 18 40
South Carolina 64 19
Tenn. 141 177
Tex. A&M 36 57
Vandy 22 86
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32487 posts
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:19 am to
Jones needs those easy victories that haven't been so easy to keep his job.
Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2650 posts
Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:17 pm to
The SEC will take care of itself since we will play each of those schools and if we don't do well there the SOS or RPI won't really matter much. Indiana, UNLV, Syracuse, Michigan, etc. are teams that have won national championships and are considered contenders in basketball. You say the fact they have a worse strength of schedule than LSU means nothing?
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7823 posts
Posted on 12/19/16 at 2:01 pm to
Johnny Jones stacking the deck to keep his job one more year.
Posted by Darth Aranda
Naboo
Member since Dec 2016
2487 posts
Posted on 12/19/16 at 2:38 pm to
In regards to RPI, unlike in previous years the majority of SEC teams have solid RPIs.
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