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Bama's TE crossing route and "picking" the DB
Posted on 12/14/11 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 12/14/11 at 12:42 pm
Against Auburn, Bama ran a shallow crossing route to the TE across the middle for much success. On these plays, Bama put its wide receiver from the opposite side on a shallow crossing route too. Gary Danielson pointed out on a couple of occasions that the DB from Auburn was getting picked by the Bama receiver coming the other way. There was never contact but the DB/LB covering the TE was having to run around the wide receiver which gave the TE enough room for a completion with YAC.
My question to those who know college rules: Is a wide receiver pick legal? What makes it illegal (contact, etc.)? Did any of you catch onto this and say "that is something we will have to stop"?
Richardson will get his 80+ yards rushing, but there are two plays that worry me in the BCS game: 1) that dang wheel route with TR wide open and 2) this shallow TE crossing route that looks almost unstoppable with a crisp pass.
My question to those who know college rules: Is a wide receiver pick legal? What makes it illegal (contact, etc.)? Did any of you catch onto this and say "that is something we will have to stop"?
Richardson will get his 80+ yards rushing, but there are two plays that worry me in the BCS game: 1) that dang wheel route with TR wide open and 2) this shallow TE crossing route that looks almost unstoppable with a crisp pass.
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 12:44 pm to PacWilly
I think it becomes a pick when it becomes obvious that it is a pick. Just contact wouldn't necessarily mean its a pick.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 12:46 pm to PacWilly
they did this against us too
Posted on 12/14/11 at 12:49 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Just blow up their WRs at the LOS and the play is a bust...assuming our LBs don't shite the bed.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 12:50 pm to PacWilly
quote:
My question to those who know college rules: Is a wide receiver pick legal? What makes it illegal (contact, etc.)
It becomes a pick when the refs call it
Posted on 12/14/11 at 12:50 pm to PacWilly
They've been running this play all season, including the first game against LSU. This isn't something new to worry about
Posted on 12/14/11 at 12:51 pm to PacWilly
Its called a rub route. Commomly referred 2 as "mesh" routes as well. You see it all the time with some of the most basic man beaters such as Slant/chute or Slant/out combinations.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 12:55 pm to 7thWardTiger
Further more, the mesh is a staple of passing attacks.
It works against both man and zone. Its a beautiful thing actually.
The 2 wrs run as close to each other as possible. One wr is reading the others man. If he's following him, its man coverage, keep running. If he has no one trailing, its zone, find the hole and sit down.
Its a staple of almost all passing attacks
It works against both man and zone. Its a beautiful thing actually.
The 2 wrs run as close to each other as possible. One wr is reading the others man. If he's following him, its man coverage, keep running. If he has no one trailing, its zone, find the hole and sit down.
Its a staple of almost all passing attacks
Posted on 12/14/11 at 1:04 pm to PacWilly
Arkansas and UGA did similar things, most teams with good catching TE do it, I wish LSU would do it more
Posted on 12/14/11 at 1:24 pm to nicholastiger
Well, one way to stop it would be to blow up the WR running the pick. A full-speed hit from Mo or Reid will make them think twice about it.
Technically, it's legal, and I've seen players use the Umpire on this as well. If the DB sells it, he could get the call for offensive interference - but it's seldom called.
Given that we have a big 12 crew, and they are a pass-happy league, I would expect they will lean toward the offense on these plays.
Technically, it's legal, and I've seen players use the Umpire on this as well. If the DB sells it, he could get the call for offensive interference - but it's seldom called.
Given that we have a big 12 crew, and they are a pass-happy league, I would expect they will lean toward the offense on these plays.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 1:49 pm to PacWilly
It is very much "illegal", however, if done without contact the refs may not call it.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 1:53 pm to fan251
Bama is notorious for doing this with the passing game. Me personally, b/c it's AJ on the other side, I would sit on those shallow crossing routes and out-routes and force AJ to go down the field.
If he chooses to throw those short patterns it would be pick 6 all game long. I don't mind putting my corners at a disadvantage b/c we play man-to-man all game long anyways.
Just my opinion.
If he chooses to throw those short patterns it would be pick 6 all game long. I don't mind putting my corners at a disadvantage b/c we play man-to-man all game long anyways.
Just my opinion.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 2:40 pm to PacWilly
what needs to happen, is which ever side the TE releases from, the strong or weak side;depending if they motion him to the opposite side, the LB responsible for the TE needs to lay a hard hit on him and slow down his route, disrupt his timing.. we cant just let him or any of the WR take off untouched...
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