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At what point did Mingo become so much more talented than Sam?

Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:49 pm
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:49 pm
At least in the eyes of the NFL and draft status.

Did Sam slack off on preparing or did Mingo have that big of a jump? It seemed that 2 years ago Sam would have been drafted as a top 5 pick.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:51 pm to
When sam admitted that he was lazy and took plays off
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:52 pm to
everyone seems to be concerned about Sam's "passion for the game," but Mingo is probably the best specimen of his proportion since Thomas Henderson, sprinter speed, linebacker size, fast enough to get around the o-linemen that are almost twice his size, lot of potential options
Posted by lob1284
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:54 pm to
Comparing their physical traits, Mingo is way more projectable as a pass rusher.

Teams discovering that Sam is a crazy person during the interview process only hurt his stock more.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:54 pm to
At the time that they set forth on campus and Mingo's measurables dwarfed the entirely impressive measurables that Sam has. All that, and Sam had a catastrophic knee injury which he recovered from like a beast. So I guess, it has always been like that.
Posted by Jones
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:55 pm to
The NFL sees potential with Mingo.

Lazy with Sam
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:58 pm to
Mingo didn't make a jump. He was always considered a top 15 guy the entire season, and he was 1 of the few guys that didn't really move in the process. Plus, his athleticism and measurables are off the charts. Even in the NFL his size and speed is ridiculous/special.

Sam dropped. And some of it was because of his interviews and answers, but I think it's more of how does he fit into a defense? He's better suited for a 4-3 DE, but he isn't the biggest guy to play that spot. And he's not the most athletic guy to play an OLB in the 3-4. He, to me, is the ultimate tweener. His style of play, speed, and amount of athleticism is better for a 4-3 DE, but his size is better suited for a 3-4 OLB. He's an undersized DE, but a slow inexperienced 3-4 OLB.
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 2:02 pm
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:59 pm to
when Mingo ran down that Oregon RB.
Posted by LSUviaCincy
Cincinnati
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:00 pm to
Motor..Motor..Motor.
Posted by BhamBengal
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:03 pm to
Mingo is an insane athletic specimen as an OLB
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 2:04 pm
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:04 pm to
Birth
Posted by mcneil912
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:05 pm to
When Mingo started running like a cheetah
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

His style of play, speed, and amount of athleticism is better for a 4-3 DE, but his size is better suited for a 3-4 OLB. He's an undersized DE, but a slow inexperienced 3-4 OLB.


This.
Posted by VegasPro
Vegas
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:07 pm to
Sam doesn't have a high ceiling. He is what they are getting. U can do a ton if stuff with Mingo.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:09 pm to
Mingo was always a bit higher than Sam. He was always projected as a top 10 pick. Sam could have been up there with him as well but fricked up the draft process
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40378 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:13 pm to
The NFL is in love with guys they think can rush the passer in the next level. Even though Sam had more sacks last year, Mingo's speed off the edge made NFL teams hard in the pants.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:17 pm to
even though Mingo wasn't very productive in college, the NFL likes his measureables much more than Montgomerys
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:19 pm to
Mingo is a freak and you just can't teach size and speed.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:25 pm to
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slow

dude has a 200m <22secs, and a 400m <50secs three years ago, he's not slow
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14509 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

When sam admitted that he was lazy and took plays off


Which is funny because every player in the first round has done the same.
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