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re: Aranda's scheme will help us hide the LB deficiency.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 10:01 am to MightyYat
Posted on 2/4/16 at 10:01 am to MightyYat
I maintain that the primary responsibility of LB's is filling gaps and bringing people down. Coverage for a LB is really not that hard to figure out.
As a LB, you will get beat by WR's whether you are good in coverage or bad. It hardly matters. What matters is denying RB's and TE's yardage in the passing game.
I think it's far more important to be able to take on linemen, tackle, and love doing both in order to be a successful LB. I think DE's can make the transition there, as long as they have the smarts to handle it. You have to make quick decisions as a LB.
As a LB, you will get beat by WR's whether you are good in coverage or bad. It hardly matters. What matters is denying RB's and TE's yardage in the passing game.
I think it's far more important to be able to take on linemen, tackle, and love doing both in order to be a successful LB. I think DE's can make the transition there, as long as they have the smarts to handle it. You have to make quick decisions as a LB.
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 10:11 am to MightyYat
Can't wait to see the variety of blitz packages with the DBs
Posted on 2/4/16 at 10:17 am to tigerfoot
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especially in the age of HUNH
What's HUNH?
Hurry up no huddle
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 10:18 am
Posted on 2/4/16 at 10:20 am to VesperiaLSU
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if he was a stud LB why wasnt he rated/ ranked blah blah blah
May wanna do some research before you start typing. White was listed as an ATHLETE throughout the process with just about everyone saying he had a better future at LB, it was DW earlier on saying he would rather play RB in college...there is amazing film of him covering elite backs at camps where the offensive guys have the advantage. From Les' mouth yesterday he's 6'1 250, who ran a laser timed 4.49. He's a 5 star LBer
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 10:28 am
Posted on 2/4/16 at 10:27 am to LSU GrandDad
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i'm not a football genius like many of you but having a bunch of DE's or RB's at the LB position just doesn't sound all that good. DE's and RB's don't drop back in pass coverage.
Aranda has made a career out of dropping D-linemen into coverage. Expect to see a lot of that.
And RB's convert to LB all the time, you know that. D White played nearly as much LB in highschool as RB.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 10:29 am to MightyYat
If you research the "Okie" defense it's basically a 5-2 with two stand up rush ends playing 6 & 7 techs. The 6 & 7 techs will be asked to contain on running downs, and either rush the passer or cover the flats/short zone on passing downs. So we need two true LBers in that scheme. I think we'll be alright there.
Another thing to keep in mind is the fact that Aranda has never had this many toys to play with. LBers might be the driving force in his scheme but we have Safeties that are nearly as big as some of his LBers at Wisky. We might see a lot of three Safety looks.
Another thing to keep in mind is the fact that Aranda has never had this many toys to play with. LBers might be the driving force in his scheme but we have Safeties that are nearly as big as some of his LBers at Wisky. We might see a lot of three Safety looks.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 10:32 am to MightyYat
I definitely see Key as a player capable of moving to OLB. A move like that would free him up for better pass rush matchups, make the interior line more stout against the run, and I think he's athletic enough to occasionally drop out and eliminate the swing pass or screen to the back.
Aranda says he wants to dictate to the offense, so it would make sense. If the offense knows Key will rush the QB every time, then their gameplan is easier to devise. If he's not where they expect him to be, that will create problems, as they know that he CAN be very disruptive.
Example- let's say they will account for him with a tackle and a TE for a play. But he peals back out into short coverage and some ILB comes instead; that ILB might go inside Key's blockers and get a quick sack, or blow up the RB for a loss. Because the scheme just negated 2 primary blockers.
Aranda says he wants to dictate to the offense, so it would make sense. If the offense knows Key will rush the QB every time, then their gameplan is easier to devise. If he's not where they expect him to be, that will create problems, as they know that he CAN be very disruptive.
Example- let's say they will account for him with a tackle and a TE for a play. But he peals back out into short coverage and some ILB comes instead; that ILB might go inside Key's blockers and get a quick sack, or blow up the RB for a loss. Because the scheme just negated 2 primary blockers.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 10:39 am to SpqrTiger
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Aranda's scheme will help us hide the LB deficiency.
I maintain that the primary responsibility of LB's is filling gaps and bringing people down. Coverage for a LB is really not that hard to figure out.
As a LB, you will get beat by WR's whether you are good in coverage or bad. It hardly matters. What matters is denying RB's and TE's yardage in the passing game.
I think it's far more important to be able to take on linemen, tackle, and love doing both in order to be a successful LB. I think DE's can make the transition there, as long as they have the smarts to handle it. You have to make quick decisions as a LB.
I agree 100%. I think coverage is the most overrated aspect of playing Backer, especially in college. How many LBers in the NFL right now truly excel in coverage? How many lock-down, cover LBs can you name off the top of your head?
Posted on 2/4/16 at 10:54 am to MightyYat
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Les said yesterday that players like Roddy and Anthony could certainly fill the need in the new scheme. That also means that Bower, Neal and Key could fit in even better. This defense is going to be nasty.
Let's not forget about this guy playing a role too.
Isaiah Washington was turning a lot of heads (just like Arden Key) before he got injured .
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 10:56 am
Posted on 2/4/16 at 10:58 am to bignic26
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If you research the "Okie" defense it's basically a 5-2 with two stand up rush ends playing 6 & 7 techs. The 6 & 7 techs will be asked to contain on running downs, and either rush the passer or cover the flats/short zone on passing downs. So we need two true LBers in that scheme. I think we'll be alright there.
Basically this is the type of defense we need against big rushing offenses like Arky and Bama. Arky and Bama were running over our based 4-2-5 light weighted defense. Everything else, the 4-2-5 or 3-2-6 should be based against spread teams like Ole Miss, TAMU and UF.
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 11:00 am
Posted on 2/4/16 at 10:59 am to jtran1988
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Basically this is the type of defense we need against big rushing offenses like Arky and Bama. Everything else, the 4-2-5 or 3-2-6 should be based against spread teams like Ole Miss, TAMU, and UF.
Against those spread teams we will see a ton of 2-4-5 looks
Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:07 am to L S Usetheforce
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Most of y'all don't know shite about recruiting though, Devin white is the best ilb prospect in the nation. He CAN cover.
tell us more, wise one
Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:12 am to Lester Earl
It's about the Jimmie and Joe's not the Xs and Os amirite??
Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:15 am to VesperiaLSU
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If he is a stud MLB, then he would have been rated as a stud MLB. But did he? You people just have to realize just because some guy got the body for MLB, doesn't make him all of sudden a better LB than a pure LB who played that position 4 years in high school. LB, especially the MLB, is a very difficult position to adjust to if you didn't have experience before.
Who gave birth to this idiot? Please post less.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:25 am to bignic26
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Aranda's scheme will help us hide the LB deficiency. by bignic26
If you research the "Okie" defense it's basically a 5-2 with two stand up rush ends playing 6 & 7 techs.
All of this. I love it. Especially with Adams to clean up the filth that trickles thru
Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:26 am to DBU
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Against those spread teams we will see a ton of 2-4-5 looks
This guy gets it. Not much different than the base 4-2-5 they've been running for years. Two interior lineman, two edge rushers, and two "true" linebackers. Beckwith will be one, and then you've got Riley, Alexander, divinity, voorhies, and Thompson battling to take over the Debo role this year.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:31 am to bignic26
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How many lock-down, cover LBs can you name off the top of your head?
Luke Keuhly, Thomas Davis, Sean Lee... 3 that immediately came to mind. I'm sure there are others, not to criticize your point cuz I get what you are saying
Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:36 am to AjaxFury
Not too worried about coverage abilities of my mlb...most important attributes for a mlb are understanding/taking the proper angle to the ball carrier, ability to shed blocks and proper tackling techniques...with the proper coaching devin white will be a phenomenal mlb...
Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:40 am to Lester Earl
It's already been highlighted.....white was a listed athlete. His film shows him covering better than anybody at the opening.
He tackled with authority on any video I saw and his lateral quickness was elite. He was laser timed at 4.49 at the size listed
He tackled with authority on any video I saw and his lateral quickness was elite. He was laser timed at 4.49 at the size listed
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:35 pm to bigjuice56
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This guy gets it. Not much different than the base 4-2-5 they've been running for years. Two interior lineman, two edge rushers, and two "true" linebackers. Beckwith will be one, and then you've got Riley, Alexander, divinity, voorhies, and Thompson battling to take over the Debo role this year.
This.
We keep talking about this Okie defense. In actuality we will be in an alignment like that very seldom. We will be in nickle the most, and dime and base much less.
I see up running a 3-3 often as our nickle (very similar to the 4-2 or 2-4 mentioned above) but with a big athletic down lineman as our wide 4i tech
Something similar to this:
4i: Neal (Washington, Logan)
1: LaCouture (Gilmore, Alexander) (1 tech shaded to the 4i side)
3: Godchaux (Lawrence, Herron)
6: Key (Bower, Teuhema, Anthony)
Beckwith and another LB (Riley, Alexander, Divinity, etc)
Call it a 3-3 or a 4-2, its not terribly different than what we have seen in the past while in nickel with two true backers on the field, it just gives a little more versatility to the front and the edge rusher
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